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23 October Through Abrupt End of The Open Water Season 2020
On the 24th and 25th of October I was on schedule to float the SLR with a father and son, Gene and Aaron, from NYC. The plan was going well on day one, and despite strong north winds and some rain, the pike were biting.
After landing several pike we searched for smallmouth on the main river shoals but found the wind too strong. So we spent the rest of the afternoon scouting for ducks inside the protected bays. The next day we would spend the morning shotgunning for ducks instead of fishing.
Throughout the afternoon I noticed the outboard stalling out when the throttle was brought to the neutral position. After finding a good spot in a small wetland between two islands where mallards and wood ducks were trading in and out and access was good for the Lund, I motored back to the launch.
At the end of the day, after navigating many miles of river, as the Greyghost 2 was on trajectory to land port side against the dock, the throttle was brought to neutral and the Yamaha sputtered and died. And it would not start again.
I scrambled to the bow and was able to catch a plank of the dock with my outstretched arm. Plans for a morning hunt were gone as well as the rest of the open water season for angling on the boat. The outboard has been diagnosed and parts have been ordered but wait time is several weeks.
So she is in the barn waiting for parts and for Spring.
Gates at NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area were still open as of the 20th of November. My last day out, on a friends boat, on the 8th of this month, found water temps. 55 degrees at surface and flat calm.
Have a safe winter.
10th Of October Through October 23rd
The water temps dropped below 60 degrees sometime around the 12 or 13th of October. While unloading my Lund into the lake on the morning of the 16th I watched a marshmallow and worm angler land a big rainbow. Yummy!
Sean and Brian, two of Philadelphias’ finest, joined me for a day of smallmouth fishing. Plenty of fish found in summer locations but not super hungry. Several landed and a good day on the lake!
Declining water temps have transitioned fish into different locations on the lake and fish are beginning to school thick. With the exception of the rainbows and landlocks (what’s left of them). Now is prime time for fly casting for trout! Early mornings on clear days has always been the best.
Yellow perch, rock bass and smallmouth are beginning to school thick and have started feeding heavy. This seasons perch fry are about as 2.5 to 3″ long now and schools of fry are thick and constitute a large part of the diet.
Question: Is there another species of mussel, besides the zebra mussel, present on this stick that was snagged off the bottom of the lake the other day?
Bob came up last week from Staten Island to catch some bass and get his fishing fix before winter arrives.
We found beautiful weather and a mixed bag of fish with some heavy schools of perch!
A few hours were spent teaching fly fishing and fly casting to a young family on the flat surface of the lake last week. It is a great pleasure of mine to introduce people to the world of fly fishing!
Young Mike is a natural!
A few more trips on the calendar before the boat gets put away for the season. Focus will be on trout with fly and spin tackle… A poetic recap of the busiest angling season in history on Skaneateles Lake is in order.
Stay safe and stay tuned.
Septemeber Through 10th of October
Several successful trips over the last few weeks. Target species has been smallmouth and panfish. Many beginners — folks new to fishing — find the hungry smallies, rockies and perch big fun! They provide the right amount of action to keep my guests entertained!
Water temps are starting a solid decline and found 62 degrees at surface yesterday (10/9) in the center of the lake. While I have not noticed any major transition in fish locations, the large smallmouth being scattered in depths over twenty feet, I have noticed the fish beginning to feed heavier. As water temps decline into the high 50’s the rainbows (what’s left of them) will move into the shallows.
Question: If you are sitting at the boat launch, in the cab of your running vehicle, watching rods with sunken nightcrawlers attached, through your windshield… Are you fishing?
Super strong south winds came the middle part of this past week and blew for about 36 hours from Wednesday late morning until the very early morning hours on Friday. Whenever strong winds sustain from the north or the south the fish feed hard.
The strong current created by the wind on the big lake creates a “lunch line” and the fish school up thick and feed on the tight balls of struggling fry, dislodged crayfish, snails and other food sources that are drifting in the windswept currents over the shallow flats and shoals.
All summer I fished the same locations and caught zero walleye. In the last three weeks I have caught three small ones. Several friends have also been hooking walleye and sending me pics.
My guess is the declining daylight and cloudy days of late have these low light feeders active! There population is no doubt increasing as well.
My understanding is that the NYSDEC has had success in putting gps receivers on a couple adult fish this past Spring to try to further understand and perhaps manage the walleye in the lake.
I’ve a hunch that casting stickbaits after the sun goes down in the shallows will produce waldos in the weeks ahead!
Lakers starting to get aggressive!
15th Through the 20th September 2020
A stunning high pressure system has been parked on Upstate New York for several days and forecast is it will remain for the next few days!
While the water temps at surface have started a healthy decline, 65 degrees as of the 19th, the fish are still in summer mode. Schools of both rock bass, smallmouth and perch are sometimes difficult to locate but hungry when found.
Most of my effort is spent trying to mark fish in 30 to 45 FOW over weedy flats. The diet of the schooled fish is mixed with crayfish and fry. Lake trout have not changed their pattern at all and large schools of immature lakers are prevalent.
The best fishing is daybreak until noon. The fish slow down their feeding as the afternoon draws on.
Skaneateles Lake lost its greatest ally recently with the passing of Bob Werner. For over two decades Bob studied the lake and lead the effort to protect and manage the health of the lake and its ecosystem.
Besides being a respected and well regarded limnologist and scientist in the community, Bob was a genuinely nice man. The several conversations I had with him over the years were wonderful and his insight and understanding of the lake was second to none. His presence, intellect and leadership will be missed in the community and on the lake.
September So Far
Several trips completed and several more on the menu as the calendar moves into mid September. The water temps at surface are in the low 70’s and cooler nights will hasten the decline. Perch have begun to school and smallmouth and rock bass have strapped on the food bag with a taste for crayfish and panfish fry. The last few trips (Sept. 10,11 and 13) produced great catches of smallmouth and panfish. Cloudy days and light winds are welcome!
Most Of July and August 2020
Again I have let weeks on end of fishing trips go un-documented on my blog! It has been the busiest summer season I haver ever had on Skaneateles Lake and when I try to recount the number of trips and people I have had on-board The Greyghost 2 since my last blog on 7/11… Well it gets confusing. So I will try to summarize. As things begin to slow down I will make it more of a point to keep my blog updated.
The Summer fishing fell into the dog days around the middle of July. Week after week of hot and dry weather had conditioned many of the large fish to be most active at low light with some exceptions.
The water temps peaked at 79 degrees at surface around the 10th of August and surface temps, while still fluctuating, have begun to drop a couple degrees just within the last week. The thermocline is very deep this year and the rainbows and salmon are stressed. The perch fry from this past springs’ spawn (about the size of a tiny paperclip) are on the menu! They are in large schools and pelagic.
I have not noticed too many trollers this season. Perhaps this method of fishing is waning in popularity? Or the serious trout trollers are west on Cayuga or north on Ontario tapping into those wicked hot fisheries right now. Yesterday I watched a 20′ glass trolling boat with planer boards employed pass me in 100 FOW at about 15 MPH. Not sure if that is an effective technique right now.
The early morning hours are the best! Days when we get a little weather and clouds are particularly good. But overall the fishing is mediocre in late August and while everyday can be different, I don’t expect it to be “hot” again for several more weeks.
I stopped fishing for the lake trout about three weeks ago as it is high mortality on the trout and they can be unreliable, or tough to find. While drifting in 35 to 40 FOW earlier this week a guest hooked a huge fish that made several powerful runs and then snapped the line.
And when I got home I took the brand new spool of BPS brand eight pound fluorocarbon and threw it in the garbage where it belonged.
Fishing equipment is getting tough to find and I was getting low on the Seaguar fluoro I always use…So I denied my gut instinct and bought a spool of BPS brand. I have since found some more Seaguar, so having a large fish break a line is not a possibility anymore. As a full-time guide I cannot have lines or knots break. Period. People may find another way to lose a big fish, and they often do, but it cannot be a result of my terminal tackle.
Anyhow we were fishing for scattered smallmouth on the deep part of a weedy/rocky flat when we hooked that fish. Shortly after we landed two small lakers in the same area. So I assume it was a big laker we lost. The lakers we caught (on accident while bass fishing) had to be kept as they could not be revived.
The stress of the fight and the warm water killed them. Thats one of the reasons why I don’t fish for them these days. Bass are plentiful, fight good, taste great when filleted boneless… And need to be thinned out. So they are the target species of my guide service in the late summer.
11 July 2020
Mark from Rochester had reached out to me to provide an introduction to fly fishing for his family. So I decided the lake would be the place for Mark and his kids to get a lesson. Years ago, when I first began guiding, I frequented the local (now defunct) Orvis fly shop in Skaneateles. The owner had told me that the lake is no place to teach others how to fly cast. I disagreed and have since taught dozens and dozens of anglers how to properly fly cast on the lake over the years.
The lake is an ideal place to learn how to fly cast for two reasons. First, with the right conditions — light and variable winds — the surface of the lake provides the required element of surface tension that helps beginners understand how the fly rod works. Second, on the open lake there exists no bushes or trees or other distractions that can make beginners struggle.
Across the country anglers who hire guides to fly fish can spend the entire day on the water, catching fish, and never learn or understand the proper mechanics of fly casting. This is quite common on drift boats in the east and the west. This is not true however on stillwaters or oceans or big rivers.
Waters’ surface tension on the fly line is an overlooked and important aspect of the fly cast. It is the element that puts the energy in todays fast action rods and allows anglers to eliminate false casting. False casting is a bad habit.
Basics are taught easy from the deck of my boat. Basics like how to hold a fly rod. There is only ONE way! Not two ways. Or three ways. The swell of the cork is in the meat of your palm and the thumb is directly on top of the cork. Period.
The wrist never breaks and the fly travels in a horizontal plane through the air lead by the tip of the rod. Fly casting is two separate motions. The forward cast. And the backward cast. Wherever the tip goes during the fly cast is where the fly is going to go. If you try to learn how to cast on your own without instruction you will break your wrist and drive the rod tip down on your back cast. If this becomes habit, you will forever struggle and be forever pulling flies off the back of your hat. Accuracy and distance only come from proper casting mechanics. And proper casting mechanics are only developed through practice.
There is a tremendous amount of mini-topics within the big topic of fly casting. On my boat I teach fly casting. Fly casting that uses the shoulder as the engine and the forearm as an extension of the rod.
Mark and kids enjoyed the demonstration and the boat ride. The smallmouth have begun to key in on the fry and at two locations they were breaking the calm surface of the lake while attacking the big schools of tiny perch and rock bass. Mark actually caught a few fish on his first day ever holding a fly rod! A bonus!
Water temps at surface were 75 degrees on the southern third of the lake.
5 July 2020
On the 1st of July I departed to the northwest Adirondacks to guide two young men into the backcountry in search of brook trout with fly rods. With week after week of almost un-interrupted sunshine I did not expect the fishing for trout in the ponds to be any good. And I warned the guys, but they wanted to go anyhow and see how it is done.
The trip was with two canoes and I brought my son along to pilot one canoe while I paddled the second canoe and the anglers sat in the bow with fly rods ready. The fishing was poor but the scenery was stunning as always. The trip was quite strenuous with two portages.
The guided trip was parlayed into a family camping trip. After saying goodbye to my two young fly fishing guests from Cranberry, New Jersey, my son Sage and I strapped the canoes on the truck, and with the Lund in tow, met up with my wife Maggie and daughter Riley for a two day camping trip on the Saranacs.
It was a fun-filled and relaxing two days of beautiful weather and a much needed escape from home for my wife and two children.
What does this have to do with Skaneateles Lake? Nothing.
Upon arrival back home I was un-loading gear when I received an email from American Express Concierge Service. A client of theirs was staying at a local spa in Skaneateles and they requested an afternoon boat tour for a family of three on the lake for the following day, July 5th
The lake was the busiest I have ever seen it. Watercraft of every sort was everywhere and the lakes surface rolled back and forth like a bathtub at bath time. At least a hundred boats were moored at sandy beach and a county sheriff patrol boat kept a close eye on things. My guests, Gale, Sergi, and daughter Mila (and their Pomeranian whose name I forget) enjoyed a refreshing swim in the lake!
Water temp at surface 76 at sandy beach.
30 June 2020
The lake was fairly calm with a slight northwest breeze at 0615 hrs when I launched. My guests were Paul and his two sons Jack and Owen. Their family camp is on the west shore about a half mile north of Carpenters Point. They had reached out to me to schedule a trip to learn more about bass fishing on the lake.
We drifted a couple rocky, weedy flats north of their camp and brought several smallmouth to net. The overcast skies and slight chop had the bass active. Perhaps 25 to 30 bass between 10 and 16 inches were caught and released while the guys learned finesse bass fishing techniques. Hexagenia nymph shucks were thick on the surface.
The wind grew in intensity as the morning went on and by 1100 hrs it was sustained at 12 too 15 mph out of the northwest. So we called it a day and I dropped the guys off at their dock and departed for the launch.
Water temps at surface around 70 degrees.
28 June 2020
Departed the state launch at 0600 hrs and waited at the village docks for my guest. There were Hexagenia climbing and molting on the aluminum uprights of the dock and a slight crowd had already began to form at the waterfront in anticipation of the Skaneateles Class of 02020 Commencement.
My guest was Asa Rose Shenandoah. Her wish was to fly fish and she had reserved my boat as the place to learn. Shortly after 0630 hrs we launched. With thunderstorms forecasted, I watched the radar and decided to stay close to the village.
Asa knew this was to be a lesson. An introduction to fly casting. While there were fish rising around the boat to emerging hex’s and some duns, I stayed tuned into teaching the mechanics of the fly cast. Having never picked up a fly rod before, but eager to learn, Asa quickly grasped the mechanics of the cast.
Professional guiding leads me to meeting so many people and enjoying their company. And besides the angler looking to just catch a fish, every now and then, I meet someone who makes an impression. Not with their reputation or success or skill. But with their character and strength.
Asa Rose Shenandoah is just one of those people. A person of determination and instinct who has persevered. A person who will not just find her way through life. But will work hard to make her way… Perhaps change the world she lives in for the better. Thats my impression.
25 June 2020
Sean met me at the NYSDEC launch 0530 hrs and we motored south to pick up my friend Brian from his dock just south of Harold Brook. The conditions were perfect. Super light west wind and great visibility.
Knowing the hatch was at its end I motored south several miles and set up the spot lock on a favored gravel point. We searched the surface for rises and bugs. Very few mayflies on the surface. A small fish rose and Brian delivered his comparadun with accuracy. A 10 inch rainbow gobbled it up immediate.
That was the only trout we saw in four hours of fly casting. Ugh. Water temps at surface were 72 at boat launch and 67 on the southern third of the lake.
The brown drake hatch is complete. The hatch was a strong one this year but the overall conditions of wind and a couple brief deluges made the dry fly fishing sub-par…For me anyways. This long spell of hot weather and clear skies accompanied with tremendous recreational boat traffic, seems to have had an impact on the lakes’ fishing.
Both Brian and Sean are excellent fly casters! Sean has a custom wrapped Sage X five weight which he fished with a sink tip and small bead-head streamer. No trout but several small bass and a perch fell for his presentation.
Brian was casting one of my old Sage RPL+ two piece six weight rods with a size 12 brown drake comparadun of my own variety with a bead-head tan hares ear flashback nymph also of my own design, fished on a dropper about two and one half feet below the dry. Typically a deadly combination when fish are working the surface of the lake.
Hexagenia limbata should be making an appearance any day now. So I will be out in the early morning dawn again soon…Trying to redeem myself. Also a few father and son bass trips on the calendar in the days ahead.
24 June 2020
Back at it again this morning. The wind was starting to turn west, departing from its pattern of moderately strong from the south seemingly every day for the last two weeks. So I launched with Peter at 0500 hrs from the state launch and we motored down and picked up Jim (Oke) from his dock. Round two for both these guys. Round four for me.
The hatch has moved down the lake considerably and is past peak. The conditions were ideal with great visibility. NO rises. Anywhere. We searched miles of lake, over deep water, in scum lines and slicks, hunting for rising heads. None were found. I am getting frustrated and beginning to wonder what is going on.
“Why don’t you fish the hatch in the evening?” you are thinking. Well, it has been my experience that the best, un-hampered and un-interrupted fly fishing during the mayfly hatch is the first three hours of the morning.
The mayfly hatch always coincides with the “jet ski” hatch. And this year, these days, find the beautiful waters of Skaneateles Lake with more recreational boaters and anglers than any other summer in history. Thats right…In history.
Long before the mid-June sun climbs over the treetops on the eastern shore, when the wind is light, I have, for over 15 years, climbed out of bed at 0400 hrs and launched the boat to hunt rising trout and salmon with the fly rod.
This is the first year I have not been able to find them. Yet.
22 June 2020
I launched from the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area at 0500 hrs and motored south to pick up Jim and Jim (Oke) from Oke’s dock south of Thornton Grove. The wind was around 5 to 7 mph from the south and there was mayfly nymph husks everywhere on the surface of the lake, as well as several duns clinging to the end of Oke’s dock.
We travelled all over the lake and at one location Oke hooked what I believe was a big rainbow on a nymph and indicator rig. But it came loose in short order. His hook-set rolled the fish and a big flash of silver caught my eye. Then it was gone.
So we searched and searched some more and came up empty. We surveyed acres and acres of the lakes surface as the wind slowed down and could not spot a single rising trout or salmon. Hmmph. Besides one small bass we blanked.
There were four different contractors launching pontoon/construction barges and unloading building materials on the small gravel beach adjacent to the launch at the NEW YORK STATE ANGLERS PARKING AREA on Skaneateles Lake when I yanked my Lund at 0900 hrs. I have no issue with that at all. Everyone has a job to do. But they clearly are not angling. Incidentally, my buddy John launched on Fathers Day and said the launch was full at 0620 hrs. Wow.
20 June 2020
The early part of the week I spent fishing the Delaware River and spent two nights in Deposit, New York at The Troutfitter Inn And Fly Shop. It was beautiful weather with lots and lots of trout seen from the canoe, but very few bugs and consequently very few rising trout. Upon return to Skaneateles Lake I found millions of bugs and very few trout.
The 20th of June is the opening day of bass fishing season but I have no interest in fishing for them. Bass are on-hold for me. But it appears, based upon the massive number of boats traversing the lake, that I am the only one. We launched from the SCC as my guest, Peter, is a member. The wind was about 8 to 12 mph out of the south. And while the boats and SCC docks were covered in brown drakes, we could not see any rising trout. The hatch was on and healthy on the north end of the lake.
A school of nice smallies made big flashy porposing rises to both duns and emergers on the north side of the docks so we nymphed a bit and I landed one small rainbow. But nymphing was not what we came for. The wind kept up and we departed. Water temps in front of SCC at 70 degrees.
14 June 2020
Jim amd Jim met me at the boatyard at o700 hrs and we headed north in search of bass. The lake trout bite, while still good, was slowing down for me and the clear skies and light northwest wind made for good smallmouth conditions. It is now completely ok and legit to fish for bass, catch-and-release, outside of their open season.
Thats a good deal because I often have guests who just want to bend a rod and have no preference as to what species they catch. And smallmouth will bend a rod as they did for Jim and Jim for several hours. The guys enjoyed the lake and I was privy to some interesting stories as told by these two veteran tinknockers and natives of Syracuse.
Plenty of bass brought to net with none over 16 inches in length. Water was 64 at surface and most all fish were caught in 10 to 14 FOW. An enjoyable day with good company.
7 June 2020
I met Steve, his son Steve Jr, and his grandson Vincent at the New York State Anglers Parking Area at 0700hrs to go angling. Steve parked in the only available parking space left for a vehicle without a trailer.
In the back of his pick-up I placed an inflated inner tube that waited there patiently for us as we fished the lake. The tube is a cartop watercraft right? So all legit. No tickets upon return. Several vehicles without trailers double parked however.
The enforcement of the parking rules at The New York State Department Of Environmental Conversation Anglers Parking Area on Skaneateles Lake is entirely arbitrary.
Out on the lake we found a good northwest breeze and a few lakers. The boys caught their first trout! When the wind died we motored north to some weedy rocks in 12 FOW and bent the rod on nice smallmouth that have departed their beds and are hungry!
The rock bass are all fired up and we could not keep them off the jigs. The boys had fun catching a few dozen and Steve took several home to eat. Water temps at 58 to 60 degrees.
5 June 2020
My guest Mike recently bought a home on the west side of the lake. While he was familiar with the lake, he is interested in my techniques and knowledge of the fishery. We spent a few hours fly casting in the am and trout were rising well at our first location.
With a little practice Mike was able to deliver the fly and a solid rainbow took it! But the hook-set was not solid and the trout quickly shook the fly. Then the wind died completely and the surface of the lake turned to glass. The kiss of death.
So we tooled around the lake in the Lund and I showed Mike some locations and techniques. An enjoyable morning with good company. We spied some poor residential management of waterfront property and had some good discussion about the health and the future of this beautiful lake. Water temps at surface 55 to 57.
2 June 2020
Soft southwest breeze and overcast skies met me at the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area this morning. I launched and picked up Greg and Chip from Gregs’ dock. With the conditions being good and it being that time of year, I went searching for lake trout. We found them in 45 to 55 FOW. Water temp. at surface was 55.
In 12 or 14 driftys the guys landed over a dozen lakers around 18 to 21 inches in length. Good fighters on light tackle! The lake trout are native and while not giant, they are a very handsome and energetic fish that I enjoy angling for.
A little bit of rain and the wind turned south as the afternoon went on. An enjoyable and successful day. I am headed down tho the famed Delaware River for a couple days of fly fishing and then back on the lake on Friday morning. Stay tuned.
31 May 2020
Mike from Onondaga met me at the boatyard at 0730 hrs. The wind was north at about 5 mph. As the morning drew on it gained strength. The first time Mike fished the lake was in the fifties! he fished many many times over the years but has since sold his boat.
We approached a gravel shoal and saw several salmon rising to insects in the film of a windswept current. A few casts and we landed a 20′ landlocked. But that was it , so we drifted for smallmouth and Mike bent the road on several.
The wind grew in intensity until I was forced to cross back over the belly of the lake and seek refuge behind a point on the west shore. We fished a couple more hours and caught several jumbo perch which Mike was excited to take home and filet for dinner. By the time we got back to the launch the lake was a froth with whitecaps and it was a challenge to get the boat neatly on the trailer.
30 May 2020
Gorgeous weather today. The sun was brilliant and a light northwest breeze kept texture on the lakes surface. The lakes’ surface temperature has stabilized above 50 degrees and is 55 in most places. Trout are beginning to rise and many of the mature bass have moved into spawning mode.
Mike and Kelley from Liverpool met me at the boatyard for a day of fly casting for rainbows. It did not take either of them long to learn how to handle the 18 foot leaders and indicator rigs. With stunning scenery we stalked trout with some success.
With a sandwich in one hand and fly rod in the other, Mike hooked a big hen at lunchtime over deep water near a big drop-off. A wicked battle ensued but she was subdued by the five weight and brought to net. Easy four pounds of silver and rose!
Kelley rolled a large trout an hour or so later while drifting over a weedy shoal in 12 to 14 FOW. And beside a few small chickens (smallies) that was it. The rainbows in the southern third of the lake are scarce but the ones I have caught are fine specimens!
26 May 2020
The forecast called for 5 to 7 mph wind from the south. That never materialized. The wind was light and variable and mostly non-existent all day. The guys struggled in these conditions but were able to pick away at smallmouth all day. Several fish brought to net.
The last several days of bright sun has brought the temperature of the lake climbing. Mondays strong south wind seemed to bring up much cold water from deep and mixed with the warm surface water the lake is homogenizing in temperature. I found 62 degree surface temps in some places and 52 degree temps in others. Most of the cold water was found in the far southern third of the lake and the warmest water found to the north.
With water temps quickly climbing into the low 60’s the bass have started to move onto their spawning beds in many parts of the lake.
Trout were rising and the surface of the lake was stagnant. Like glass, covered in organic debris, pollen and insects. It was so calm thin wisps of spider web drifted by the boat and attached to the rods upright in the rod holder. This is not the type of weather anyone around here would ever complain about. Except maybe the guide on the lake!
25 May 2020
After a hiatus from the lake of a couple weeks I launched on the southern third of the lake in a stiff south wind. Air temps in the low 50’s and water temps at surface in the high 40’s. There was a good chop and I navigated the Greyghost2 across the belly of the lake with my two guests, Bob and his son Ryan from Binghamton.
The forecast was for the winds to subside in the afternoon. And they did. Beautiful blue skies and bright sun brought the water temperature up a few degrees and by mid afternoon the temp at surface was 52. Mid-to-late May always marks the peak of the fishing on the lake. As water temperatures climb above fifty the fish become very active!
My guests had no problem landing over 50 smallmouth and over a dozen large perch while fishing soft plastics in 12 to 16 FOW. All the smallmouth looked quite well fed and spit-up a variety of food sources from sculpins and perch to crayfish and hellgrammites. A couple lake trout and landlocked salmon were seen chasing our jigs with two lake trout landed.
A beautiful day and much needed fishing trip for both Bob and Ryan who have been, like the rest of us, cooped up for the last several weeks.
6 May 2020
Back on the lake at 0800 hrs launching on the south end. Wind forecasted to be west was mostly north and fairly light in the morning. I was in search of rainbow trout on a fly. Water temps were on a slight upward trend during the week with the warm weather we experienced.
Working a large gravel point the indicator plunged and I set the hook. A blast of chrome flashed and I was into a trout! She shook violently for a moment then exploded into a series of strong runs.
After the third run she let up and rolled on her side next to the boat. So I reached for the net with one hand and she exploded again popping the fly! Damn! A gorgeous 20+ inch hen bright silver and full of power! I rushed to land her and in that cold water the trout have much energy.
The wind grew to a sustained 10 to 15 with 20 mph gusts and I struggled to fly cast as the boat drifted. Two more takes on the fly where silver flashed but both missed. Several perch and smallmouth were caught over short weeds.
A strong gust hit the the boat hard and a glance at the sky suggested I motor back to the launch. But a quick stop at a spot that is usually good produced a nice landlocked salmon. After loading the boat and strapping down to the trailer, the weather became violent with powerful winds, hail, sleet and torrential rain. Water temps at 44 in some places.
5 May 2020
I launched at the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area at 0730 hrs. Eric met me at launch. Conditions were perfect for perch fishing. A light northeast breeze with a low pressure system stalled out. We arrived at our destination, some thick healthy weeds in 28 FOW on the east side of the lake.
First cast brought a jumbo. Then another. Then another. Just as we thought we would do well, the light breeze died and the lake turned into a sheet of glass. The kiss of death. The fishing slowed to a crawl and then a complete stand still.
We were off the lake by noon with a small amount of perch. Their size was impressive however with two perch pushing 14.5 inches in length. At first glance we thought them to be big males, but upon cleaning them it was revealed the largest were spawned out females. Water temp at surface around 43F.
25 April 2020
Launched on the Southwestern shore in the southern third of the lake. No fishing trip, just getting the family out of the house for some much needed fresh ir and sunshine. We fished only a bit. I hooked and landed one rainbow about 19 inches in length.
Guiding is a non-essential business. So I have cancelled and tried to re-schedule my trips with limited success. My family and I enjoyed a nice afternoon of beautiful weather on the lake. Water temps at surface 42F.
20 April 2020
The State Of New York announced the boat launches were now open. I launched at 0630 hrs at the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area and the lot was 3/4 full with anglers. Eric was to meet me at the launch at 0830 hrs and I wanted to check out a couple locations before he arrived.
At my second stop I landed a jumbo perch on my first cast. Then another. Then another. I heard a boat approaching and turned around to see a red and white crestliner closing in on me. As the boat got closer I assumed it was someone I knew.
At about 35 yds distant the guy cuts his motor and drops his anchor. On the 9,000 acre lake this gentleman decided to fish fifty feet from my boat! I turned red in the face. And could not resist but to inform the gentleman that the lake was in fact quite big and there was no need to be in my pocket. He ignored me and started fishing. His sinker plunking just yards from the hull of my boat!
At 0830 hrs I left and picked up Eric at the launch. There were two guys with a boat half in the lake but still on the trailer trying to get their engine started. It was an expensive glass bay style center console boat with the words Lucky Strike airbrushed on the port side of the hull.
Eric and I returned to the place I had found the perch and we landed eight or ten more fish. Then the armada rolled in. One by one, anglers cruising around, unable to locate schools of perch, anchored up all around us. I counted five boats within a stones throw of my Lund when we left.
The wind all but died with the faintest northwest breeze and bright sun. We searched around and found some perch in 8 FOW. They would not bite so we left. Upon arrival at the launch I noticed a heavy gas sheen on the lakes’ surface within the slip. Not cool. Water Temps at Surface were 40F.
18 April 2020
Around the 10th of April the state announced the closure of public boat launches. But the gates on the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area on Skaneateles Lake were wide open. A couple times I brought my labrador puppy over to the launch to work with her in the water and there were one or two rigs in the parking lot.
So I launched with my Lund with my wife and kids on-board. We needed a break from the cabin. I brought a couple rods but we did not fish much, we just drifted and talked and relaxed…Enjoying the fresh air and sunshine!
5 April 2020
Eric met me at the launch at 0830 and we went in search of perch. The lake was like a sheet of glass. Not the slightest breeze. We found perch but could not get them to bite. The water in Skaneateles Lake in early spring is crystal clear. Without a breeze to texture the surface, and keep things moving, the fishing becomes quite difficult.
Why? Because the fish see the boat. And when they can see the boat they swim away and won’t bite. We searched around for a couple hours and spent a half hour trying to snag a dead fish we could see lying on the bottom in 25 FOW.
The shape of the fish and its color had us believing it to be a round whitefish. Round whitefish are indigenous to the lake and co-existed with the lake trout since the last ice age. But they are very rare. I have only ever seen one in 20 years fishing the lake. It was dead and floating on the surface of the lake.
We were unsuccessful at sticking the dead fish with a jig and exhuming it from the lake bottom. The wind never picked up so we were off the lake by noon.
30 March 2020
No fishing for me this week. The three trips on the calendar were cancelled. I did run over to the New York State Anglers Parking Area with my labrador retriever puppy to let her go for a swim. It was raining and had been for most of the early morning hours. Taking the scenic route from my cabin in Sennett, I drove through the village to have a look at the lake. Upon coming down the hill to the lake I immediately noticed a plume of turbid water coming in from the west side of the lake.
A huge cloud of brown turbid water in stark contrast with the lakes blue color. Tough not to notice! So I went and checked it out. Surface water was sheeting over an exposed construction site and was being accompanied by turbid run-off from a small tributary that was under construction. Closer inspection found not all the heavy turbidity and sediment loading was coming from the construction but much of it from an unknown source on the other side of the road.
Further down on West Lake Road I found another huge plume of turbid water emptying into the lake just west of the Skaneateles Country Club. Upon further inspection, the source of the turbid water was again coming from a small tributary entering from the west side of West Lake road, traveling through private property retention ponds and then a channelized stretch traverses the golf course of the Country Club before flowing over a beaver dam and into the lake.
The summer of 2020 will mark the third summer since harmful algal blooms have threatened to have huge environmental and economic impacts on Skaneateles Lake.
The beaver dam in the pic above is located on the lakeshore just outside the Village Of Skaneateles adjacent to the Country Club. There is a colony of beavers living about 1,000 yards from the intake of the City Of Syracuse Drinking Water Supply. Giardia, or beaver fever, is perhaps not a threat as the concentration of beaver feces is not significant enough (yet) and is highly diluted.
Thats my guess. I am not a scientist.
26 March 2020
I launched on the extreme south end of the lake this afternoon due to the sustained 15 mph south winds. Besides the strong wind, I enjoy fishing the southern third of the lake and was set on fishing there today anyways. The canal from the launch that leads into the lake is a magnificent wetland landscape that was noisy with mating geese, mallards and redwing blackbirds. Water temp. in the canal was 49 degrees. This access is not as convenient as the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area Launch on the northwest end of the lake but it is a quieter and all-around more enjoyable place to be.
There were plenty of boats on the lake and I drifted into line with a small armada of local perch fishermen over short weeds in 18 FOW. A number of perch were caught but all 6 to 8 inch fish. So I moved on looking around along the east shore in the weedbeds picking away at medium and small perch.
The gusts grew even stronger as the afternoon went on and then the wind turned west and died. So I ran the boat north a few miles to a place I have been wanting to investigate and the fish were there. I put a couple dozen large perch in the livewell and headed back to the launch at dusk.
19 March 2020
Mild air temps and low clouds tempted me out on the lake. The morning hours I spent searching for schooled perch. They were located in thick weeds in 21 FOW. Fishing buddy JD had to depart, so I brought him back to the dock. Upon returning I could not pinpoint the school of fish, so I moved around searching with the electric prop. for a couple hours.
My friend Eric showed up at the launch at 1400 hrs and I picked him up. The state launch was a zoo with people fishing from shore and a full lot of boat trailers. Eric and I checked out several locations on the lake looking for perch. We caught two salmon as a byproduct and left the lake with plenty of perch to eat.
The lake has a very healthy year class of landlocked Atlantic salmon and the spring of 2020 will provide great opportunities for excellent fly fishing! The landlocks are not difficult to catch but sometimes difficult to find.
With Covid-19 keeping so many people from their jobs and school, the lake is receiving an unprecedented number of anglers. And for good reason. The open lake is a place where it is safe, providing enjoyable recreation, easy social distancing and fresh fish as a source of healthy food.
Avid anglers are coming from all round the region to harvest the yellow perch in the lake for food. Yet some of the anglers are harvesting them for sale. The state allows a 50 perch limit per person and does not restrict the sale of panfish.
Skaneateles Lake has, more than ever before, become a prime target for the modern day market fishermen, or game hog…Another appropriate term for these individuals.
Anglers harvesting fish for the table should enjoy the bounty of the lakes. They should take what they need to make a meal for their friends and family. Game hogs, catching limits day in and day out, show poor ethics, set a bad example and give anglers and sportsmen a bad name.
Thats my opinion.
15 March 2020
Eric met me at the cabin at noon and we departed to the state launch. There was not a cloud in the sky. A stiff north wind and air temps just below freezing gave us numb fingers as we searched the weeds for schooling jumbos. And suddenly…We found them!
The cold tapped us out and we were not killing them, so we put about a dozen big perch in the livewell and headed back to the launch. On the way we stopped to check out a shallow water location. Eric landed an 18″ landlocked salmon on his first cast at this location. The wind grew stronger so we split. Water temps. at surface were 38 ish.
12 March 2020
The first open water trip of the year on the lake was a modest success. There is always a glitch on the first trip of the season. Last year it was the dead batteries in my remote control for the electric prop. This year it was forgetting to unstrap the boat from the trailer before backing it into the lake. Just a short inconvenience however and JD and I were soon fishing.
A mild south west breeze pushed us along as we drifted over thick weeds in 20 FOW. It took us a couple hours but we managed to locate a pretty thick school of fish. It was a mixed bag of perch, lake trout and smallmouth. Water temps at surface was 39 degrees with cloudy skies and air temps in the low forties.
Middle of Septemeber thru October
Again, I must admit, I am a poor blogger…Weeks of fishing get summarized by a few pics and an abbreviated narrative. As mentioned in previous posts, the lake in September and the first two weeks or so of October, is still in summer mode. Not a lot changes with the fish patterns and the fishing until the temperature at surface drops below 60 degrees.
It takes Skaneateles Lake a long time to warm up and likewise a long time to cool down. The fish were lethargic and deep until the 18 of October. Water temps finally fell below 60 at surface, helped and accompanied by strong south winds and heavy rains. The trout are shallow again and all the fish in the lake are feeding hard!
On Monday the 21 of October two guests of mine caught and released over 100 smallmouth bass in one day. Breaking the previous record on my boat, The Greyghost2.
Water temps now are 57 degrees at surface.
Some pics of highlights of the last few weeks fishing on the lake. One of which was to enjoy the company of my good friend Eric Stanczyk (Onondaga County Aquaculturist) and Dave Lemon (Head of NYSDEC Region 7 Fisheries) on board The Greyghost2!
13 September 2019
I launched at the boatyard at o630 hrs and made my way to Wickwire Point to pick up my guest Todd from Philly. The wind was about 15 mph out of the south and the lake was rough. Upon arrival on the north side of the point I noticed a large school of small to medium smallmouth feeding on fry and breaking the surface of the slack water on the leeward side of the point. We fished for bass for an hour or so and landed several small and a few medium smallmouth. The wind began to grow and we drifted north along the eastern shore, picking away at bass on the bottom.
The wind grew in intensity until it reached a sustained twenty mph with 30 mph gusts. This brought our north drift to an end and we carefully motored back south to seek some shelter from the howling wind. On a small grassy flat near a gravel point Todd set the hook on a decent fish that turned out to be a nice walleye! Water temps at surface were 69 degrees.
9 September 2019
Marisa and Brian from Boston, on vacation in the Finger Lakes, joined me for a day of fishing. Heavy fog and brisk air (low of 49) gave way to mixed skies. The morning we spent looking for lakers as they had never seen one before. Some small scattered schools were found in 90 to 100 FOW but were not aggressive. They missed a few strikes and landed one small trout.
So with a laker off the list we went exploring the lake with the Lund looking for bass. Over thirty bass were brought to net with none over 16 inches in length. Most fish were found in 25 to 35 FOW. Water temp. at surface was 69 degrees.
While anchored over a weedy rocky flat in 32 FOW a bonus walleye was brought to net.
The Autumn skies and cool nights have me excited for the days ahead! The lake is getting quieter with traffic and the water temps are dropping. Soon the fish will be in transition. Becoming perhaps easier to catch but sometimes difficult to locate.
8 September 2019
Tony and his wife Norma joined me for a day of perch fishing. They were looking for a relaxing anniversary fishing trip as well as a mess of fish to eat. Several schools of perch were found and we weeded through them to catch a one man limit of 10 to 14 inchers’…The makings of a nice fish fry!
7 September 2019
Saturday was breezy and overcast and threatening to rain all day but it never did. I had a father and young son onboard for a short time in the early afternoon and they caught several small to medium bass. A good introduction to bass fishing for young Russel! Too bad his Dad grabbed his sisters life jacket on the way out the door instead of his.
After dropping Russel and Peter off, I picked up my friend Eric the Fish Farmer at the state launch as there was still plenty of hours in the afternoon to do some recon fishing. With several fishing trips upcoming I use the time I have on the lake without guests to keep tabs on fish and locations. I enjoy this recon fishing more with a friend than solo. I have several friends who will, at the drop of a hat, meet me at the launch for a couple hours of fishing.
Later in the day the front passed and the sun began to shine. While investigating the upwind side of a rocky weedy shoal in 25 FOW, Eric landed this pig! One of the largest brought to net this summer! Temps at surface cooling down to 70 degrees in most areas.
2 September 2019
Heavy rains fell the evening before Labor Day and continued into the next morning. Spencer was visiting from Arlington and wanted to do some small stream fly fishing. But the creeks were again blown out and turbid with more rain forecasted for the morning. Winds looked fair and turning west so I had Spencer meet me at the diner and he drove with me to the New York State Anglers Parking Area to launch my Lund…The Greyghost2. Fishing, in the rain, is almost always good on Skaneateles Lake.
With the option of fly fishing for trout negated we enjoyed bending the rod on smallmouth. We landed well over thirty bass between 10 and 18 inches in length. Strong fighters. Water at surface was 70 degrees and most fish were caught in 30 to 50 FOW.
The Month Of August 2019
With several light tackle trips of all sorts this month, a family trip to the Crystal Coast of Carolina, a few mornings teaching fly casters on local streams mixed with a big handful of trips in the Adirondacks, and boom, August is over! And I neglected my blog. Again. Not much new to report on the lake since the thermocline set-up and summer patterns set in several weeks ago. The dog days are ongoing.
Here we are in September. Which is, as far as the fishing and weather is concerned, a repeat of August. Cooler evenings and shorter days will slowly start to turn the temps of the lake on a downward trend, but as of this writing (8/30) the temps at surface were 72 to 75 degrees on the lake. Just this past week I see the bass starting to key in on crayfish. While I have spent some morning hours pursuing lake trout with my guests I have found most fish to be small and I prefer not to stress these char by cranking them up from 100 FOW. Smallmouth are reliable, strong fighting, plentiful and my guests enjoy their sport. So I keep tabs on them all summer. Where are most of the big bass now? In places that are difficult to locate.
Reports I hear from the trollers at the boat launch is they are doing well on the trout confined to thermocline. I would not know. I don’t troll. I find it boring. One angler boasted he had caught and killed over 200 trout and salmon this summer. That’s 200 less trout and salmon that me or my guests will ever get a chance to catch. I imagine he exaggerated a bit as fishermen often do. I can only hope.
The number of anglers in the lake is at the highest level I have ever seen. The nearby lakes are in poor condition due to increased algae blooms and widespread millfoil infestations. I believe this is a large part of the reason for the increased fishing pressure on the lake. The lake is still cloudy with algae, but nowhere near as much as neighboring lakes Owasco and Otisco. A widespread, or even localized harmful algae bloom (HAB), has not been seen. I hope it stays that way. It is believed these HAB’s are caused by both manmade and natural causes. Like heavy rain events, natural erosion and poor construction of infrastructure along the lakes’ shores.
21 July 2019
Luke and his grandson Owen met me at The Boatyard at 0730 hrs. They made the drive from Ithaca to learn the art of fly casting. Luke is 70, retired and doing well and Owen is 13 and headed into ninth grade. Neither of them had ever picked up a fly rod before. But they wanted to learn and I am more than happy to assist.
Fly casting is not learned in day. A day on a boat with a guide that specializes in teaching fly casting, however, is the fastest and best way to learn the fundamental mechanics of the pursuit.
Over the years I have met many fly fishers and have coached them on the proper mechanics of the cast. What surprises me is how many guides will not take the time to teach a fly angler how to cast.
On a river or a stream perhaps learning the proper way to fly cast is less important than getting your “sport” into a fish. There is no need for proper form or handling of a fly rod when a simple roll of the arm can plop a nymph in front of a trout.
When teaching beginners I have to start at the basics. How to hold a rod. What the rod hand does. What the line hand does. What they do together. Line weight. Rod weight. The moving of the lever through a fulcrum where the tip is always high and the wrist never breaks. Some might compare fly casting to a golf swing. I hate that because I have a dislike of golf. For many reasons. Some philosophical and others just a simple matter of environmental ÷ecology.
Anyhow, mechanics are involved in both. The fly cast and the golf swing. So much of it is form. A well engineered fly rod can make a novice an ok caster. This is likely true of a golf club but I would not know.
Luke and Anthony learned the basics today. How to hold the rod. How to set the hook and how to manage the line. If they stick with it they will get frustrated as every beginner does in the evolution of fly casting. But they will develop as good casters with the fundamentals I taught them today on Skaneateles Lake. Well over a dozen bass were brought to net on five weight Sage rods and Rio lines attached to my hand-tied leaders and flies.
Water temp at surface 77.5 degrees! Oh my.
20 July 2019
Mark met me at the end of his dock just north of Five Mile Point at 0630 hrs. The lake had the slightest of a southwest breeze so I headed north almost to the village. We set up deep and above shallow rock piles to the north of us and I closed the gap slowly. The smallmouth are beginning to move deeper. The young of the year fry, about the size of a small paperclip, are beginning to school and move out over deeper water.
These tiny fish school and migrate out of the shallows becoming a roaming bait ball. If they did not “go pelagic” there would be no fish left in the lake. If the tiny warm water fry of rock bass, perch and smallmouth did not assemble and evacuate the shallow margins they would be preyed upon to depletion. The largest predator they have are their older brothers and sisters. The smallmouth of eight to ten inches hammer them like wolves in a pack pushing these balls of fry farther and farther away from the shallows until they hit the open basin of the lake and the wind and current carry them away from the attacking bass, away from the shallow structure, into the abyss.
Out over the abyss they find zooplankton to eat in the thermocline. Here, in the thermocline, other predators constrained by temperature and oxygen await there arrival. Predators like trout and landlocked salmon, that are even swifter and faster than the warm water fish of the shallows, maraud the big schools of fry. This is what is starting to happen on the lake. Big fun!
Mark landed over 25 bass with a few decent ones brought to net. Good action and nice company made for an enjoyable morning on the lake! Water temps at 76 at surface.
18 July 2019
I picked up Charlie from Iowa at the high banks below Greenfield Lane at 0700 hrs. The lake was spectacular with low clouds and scattered fog lit up by the early morning sunlight. The wind was light and variable and the surface had little texture.
We motored down to a spot where I have been catching lake trout in 70 to 100 FOW. Several small lakers were found and a few landed but no large marks. Big rainbow trout were taking hexagenia mayflies on the surface over 100 FOW and it was surprising to me. Of course when I was there looking for them three weeks ago during the brown drake hatch, with a fly rod in hand, they were nowhere to be seen!
The water temp at surface was 75 degrees at 0730 hrs and this is the extreme limit for trout to be found in. The lake has stratified and the thermocline is set-up at 25 to 30 feet down from surface and is holding many fish. I saw only one troller — in the mid-lake area around Borodino — dragging spoons through the thermocline.
Most all of the bass have left their spawning beds but I did see a few still hanging in there. They are abandoning the shallows and have moved to deeper depths of 12 to 20 FOW and still can be found concentrated around rock piles and structure feeding on crayfish.
With very little wind and intense sunshine the fishing was difficult. Charlie managed a dozen or more decent smallies brought to net and we had an enjoyable day on the lake.
15 July 2019
After a few days of teaching fly fishing on the nearby trout streams, my lake schedule has picked back up. I met Anthony from Phoenix Arizona in the village at 0700 hrs with gray overcast skies and a 10 mph southwest wind. Ideal smallmouth bass fishing conditions!
We set up on a drift that would take us into casting range of nice rock piles. There were two other bass boats hovering right on top of the rocks. Why put the boat over the fish? It is more effective to ease the boat to within casting distance and then anchor upwind of shallow structure and fish. The larger bass are more readily caught this way.
Anthony caught and released 35 bass before noon. Water temps at surface 75 degrees.
Late morning the wind slid to the west and died to the faintest of a breeze while the skies cleared and the sun became intense. As early afternoon approached the bass stopped feeding and thunderstorms approached from the northwest so I motored Anthony back to the village just before the cells rolled through town and delivered a drenching.
I waited out the downpour at the Lakehouse Pub with a roast beef sandwich and a Brooklyn Lager. The sun came out and I headed back to the launch. Upon arrival I found the water in the launch as turbid as I have ever seen it and I noticed the NYSDEC had recently taken a brush hog to the bushes along both sides of the access road. Reducing the vegetation along the roadsides.
The lake has an issue with sedimentation being delivered from surface water run-off. The increased sedimentation and subsequent non-point source pollution is having a negative impact on the lake. This is well known. Yet at the NYSDEC Angler Parking Area, the largest public boat access on the lake, we find surface water sheeting into the lake and carrying with it heavy sediments and non-point source pollution during heavy rain events.
Sampling and analyzing inlet creek sediments to distinguish composition is keeping the scientists busy. Another thunderstorm season is in full-swing and nutrient loading, sedimentation, siltation and non-point source pollution are again, by and large, left un-checked.
This issue is the most important environmental concern in the watershed. It is changing the lakes ecosystem and water quality.
Everywhere I go on the lake I see its’ effects on the underwater habitat. Large areas of clean gravel are now covered in heavy silt and ensuing vegetation. It is way past time that something tangible is done. Time to get hands dirty and identify areas — areas like the NYSDEC Angler Parking Area — that are conduits of sediment, silt and non-point source pollution to the lake. These locations need to be identified and basic erosion control and stormwater techniques and equipment need to be implemented to mitigate the impact.
9 July 2019
Launched at 0630 hrs and picked up Dave and Dave and Mike off the dock of their rental home down at Thornton Grove. I introduced the guys to finesse bass fishing with soft plastics. The learning curve is not too great for those unaccustomed to the technique and once they figured it out they began to catch bass after bass. Big fun! We kept about a dozen between 14 to 18 inches in length and I filleted the fish boneless for them to enjoy with family while on vacation.
The bass are still on spawning beds in some areas of the lake especially to the south where water temps remain a few degrees cooler than the northern part of the lake. Most of the bass have spawned however and have strapped on the food bag with a keen interest in the crayfish!
These plentiful crustaceans are found, as most anglers know, around rock piles and other lake-bottom structure. They also are found in weedbeds at their immature stage. They will be the mainstay diet of all the fish in the shallows of the lake now that big mayflies have hatched and the young of the year fry have not gone pelagic. The crayfish are most active in low light and windy conditions. The best smallmouth fishing coincides.
6 July 2019
The calm and hot and beautiful weather has been in the region for a week now. And it is well deserved! I was beckoned away from the lake down to the Upper Delaware River to guide anglers for wild brown trout with dry flies over the holiday. In the back of my head all I could think about was the hatch going on back up north on the lake!
With the drake hatch and the fine summer weather also comes the jet ski hatch and wakeboard hatch and water skier hatch. So, it is best, in my opinion, to get on the water very early for the best opportunity to catch trout on the surface.
Andy met me at the launch at 0445 hrs and we embarked. The lake was like glass with only the faintest ripple as we searched for bugs and rising trout on the vast surface of the big lake. We found none. The water temperature at surface, after such an extended period of sun and calm was at 73 degrees. While the drake hatch was over for the most part, there was plenty of insects (including spent drakes) on the surface of the lake. Water is just too warm now for the trout to comfortably feed in the surface scum with any regularity.
The lake has stratified and the trout are now confined to a growing thermocline layer about twenty or so feet down from the surface.
Wind and rain and overnight temperatures can change things, but it appears we have entered summer fishing mode on the lake. Time to focus on the smallmouth, or chickens of the lake, as I like to call them.
Andy received a long casting lesson from me and landed a few small bass on both dry flies and nymphs. He enjoyed our time on the water and I enjoyed his company.
Summer is here!!
1 July 2019
The brown drake hatch is in full swing and the mayflies are thick in the bushes along the lakeshore. andy wanted to give out a shot with his Hardy five weight so we launched around 6pm and waited for the spinners to fall. The gorgeous weather had the lake busy with boat traffic and I knew it would be late before the trout started to feed on the surface.
It was not until nearly 9pm that we saw our first trout rise. There were several targets and the trout were keyed in on the adult mayflies on the surface over 80 FOW…but we failed to connect.
An enjoyable evening and we vowed to give it another shot towards the end off the week.
30 June 2019
Embarked again very early, 0500 hrs, with Todd and his father-in-law Don to try to catch rising rainbows. A modest west breeze was going and the western shore of the lake north and south of the launch was flat with excellent visibility. We noticed one decent rise a hundred yards out from the boat ramp while launching. But that was it.
The slight west breeze had blown all the spinners to the shallow eastern shore of the lake. Upon inspection, we found almost no mayflies on the flat surface along the western shore. We motored to the eastern shore where the lake had mild chop and immediately found bugs and shucks and fish. Visually it was challenging to see the rises. But we could hear them!
After trying to pin down a rising trout for an hour with no success and with the wind growing ever stronger, I decided to abandon the fly fishing and we headed south to jig lake trout. It was a good decision as the wind turned to the north and gained momentum. We found the lake trout and the guys landed nine medium sized fish and lost a few and missed a few. By the time we departed the wind was 18 mph straight out of the north and rollers were forming. Water temp. at surface was 68 by noon.
28 June 2019
Slipped the Greyghost2 into the lake at 0500 hrs and headed north to pick up a friend in the village for a couple hours of flycasting. We found sipping trout in short order but a south breeze built up and shut things down. With a moderate chop we were unable to see the trout rising.
It appeared that the drake hatch is building with a vast amount of shucks on the water from the prior evenings emergence. Recreational boat traffic in the evening on hot late June afternoons can be a nuisance to an angler trying to fly cast during a hatch. But it is likely even more annoying to the trout that are trying to eat the bugs amidst the buzzing of outboards and jet ski engines and their ensuing wakes. Quite honestly, it puts the fish down and can ruin the fishing.
The best opportunity to connect during this hatch is very early in the morning and again late in the evening. Water temps at surface were 66 degrees.
26 June 2019
Launched late in the afternoon at the NYSDEC Anglers Parking Area, the one that discriminates against anglers without a car top watercraft. Eric the fish farmer was my guest and we headed north into a stiff northwest wind and set up a drift. The lake is still turbid and we offered plugs and plastics to the smallmouth in wind- blown shallows along the eastern shore.
After relocating eight legal smallmouth and a few big perch from the lake into my live well, we headed over to the calm waters on the west shore to try a little topwater as the sun sank low in the horizon. We landed two more decent bass and called it a night.
I watched a few drakes emerge just south of country club and small warm water fish were keying in on them. Water temp was 65 in 10 to 15 FOW.
8th Of June Until June 23rd
On Skaneateles Lake the mature smallmouth have recently began to move onto their beds and started to defend their nest. The opening weekend of bass season, the 15th and 16th, found strong southwest winds keeping many anglers home and making for difficult fishing conditions for the few who ventured out. The fishing pressure now, on the 24th, is at peak.
The angling and boating pressure is not because of the great fishing. The condition of other nearby lakes and rivers being turbid with high water contributes to the traffic. The NYS Anglers Parking Area on the west side of the lake was full by 0800 hrs on the last two Saturdays.
The surface temp of the lake has been struggling to sustain above 60 degrees and heavy rain has the lake at the highest level ever seen in late June. On some localized hillsides around the lake heavy rains fell and washed debris and soil into the lake creating turbid water. Widespread algal blooms are possible once we see an extended period of calm and warm weather. Or what we call summer around here.
A temp of 60 degrees sustained in shallow water will also bring the brown drake hatch. This hatch of bugs is one many fly casters are patient in waiting for this season. Some drakes spotted close to the village yesterday on the 23rd but fish are just starting to key in on them. Barely.
If the weather lets it happen the big mayflies should emerge in vast numbers soon, bringing most of the fish in the lake to the top for a short time. The fly fishing can be exciting and challenging and draws fly casters from around the region. The best fishing is very early in the morning and again at sunset.
To suffice… The small and medium bass are very active in near-shore waters and will take just about any floating plug twitched above their head. The legal number of bass to harvest is five per angler over 12 inches and a number seven floating perch rapala is tough to beat.
The little bass, 12 to 16 inches in length, are delicious and make great fish tacos! Any angler on the lake that enjoys fresh fish should harvest legal smallmouth bass and enjoy them on the table!
The big lakers are scattered over the 40 to 60 FOW. Feeding heavy on nymphs and sculpin. Their schools are tough to find and the big lakers are quite spread out. They always have my attention however.
Rainbow trout have evacuated the near-shore shallows for the most part. The aggressive pre-spawn rock bass and smallmouth behave like hoody-wearing punks on a street corner. Chasing each other around. The more sophisticated rainbow trout can be found rising to midges early in the morning or nymphing and foraging in the wind lines or surface scum over deep water.
The legal limit is five trout per person per day in combination on Skaneateles Lake. That should be reduced. Killing a limit of trout every day is unsportsmanlike and not ethical in my opinion. So if you are visiting the lake on vacation and have decided to go fishing with a charter boat service that kills trout for cash you may want to reconsider.
Contributing to the decline of the cold-water fishery, the trout, is probably not something you would do if you understood the challenges the fishery faces.
Every trout in the lake is of great value. Supporting the practice of killing trout, often found in Charter Boat Fishing, is a fact to consider. Finding an experienced local licensed guide service that can teach you hands-on angling techniques, one that practices sustainable methods and supports catch-and-release, is a better choice.
An expensive boat ride with the prize at the end of the trip being a picture of you and your friends standing next to several dead and discolored smallish fish hanging from a hook on a board? Save that for Florida. Looking for the real deal on the lake? Call me.
7 June 2019
Robert from Schenectady joined me for a day of light tackle fishing. Drifting the same big weedy flat over 35 to 50 FOW turned up nothing except one missed trout. The rising water temps have the lake trout making an exodus from the shallows where they have been gorging themselves hard for the last several weeks.
We found good numbers of medium sized lake trout in 70 FOW and the school seemed to grow as the day went on. The bright sun warmed the surface of the lake to 62 degrees where we were fishing. The lake trout often expel the contents of their stomach next to the boat before being netted. The presence of large hexagenia nymphs is proof that they are spending the low light hours in relatively shallow water.
The lake has come alive with recreational boat traffic and other watercraft. The jet ski is an obnoxious thing that creates noise pollution and hazardous boating conditions. Thats just my opinion. And this is my blog. So.
Robert had a nice day on the water and I enjoyed his company.
6 June 2019
Ian and his father John from Portland, Maine joined me for a day of light tackle fishing. The morning was slightly overcast with a south breeze. We set up on a large grassy flat and drifted for lake trout, or Togue, as they are called in Maine. Several drifts brought several lakers to net early but as the morning drew on the fishing slowed down and the wind died.
We searched for rainbows in a few shallow water haunts on the north end of the lake but found only bass. The water in 12 FOW or less is around 55 degrees on the north end of the lake. The bass are beginning to put on their spawning make-up of bright red eyes and black fringed fins and are getting very aggressive.
The rainbows, for the most part, have vacated the shallow water where the bass numbers are high. The two species do not co-habitate well.
I headed south to look for shallow water that was cooler that would hold salmonids. I found it and Ian and John enjoyed catching many landlocked salmon! A beautiful and enjoyable day on the lake!
4 June 2019
Ron and Laurent met me at the boatyard at 0730 hrs for a day of fly fishing on the lake. It was a stunning spring morning with clear skies and a slight northwest breeze. The guys had not been fly fishing in some time so we spent a little while re-learning the basics off fly casting.
Laurent is from Tahiti. That is the place he has called home for more than 40 years. He also owns a home in the hills nearby Ithaca. Ron is Laurents neighbor in Ithaca and the fishing trip was a birthday gift to Ron from his wife Shelley.
We set up on a drift on the east shore of the southern third of the lake. Two deer swam across the lake as we drifted. The smallmouth are becoming quite active and water temps were around 48 degrees. Several trout attempted to eat their flies and they rolled a few. A couple smallish salmon were brought to net and we enjoyed fresh smoked trout, fresh wild mushroom patte, goat cheese and fresh bread for lunch.
Both Ron and Laurent had a very enjoyable day drifting and casting on the lake.
2 June 2019
On the last morning of their weekend fishing trip we anticipated the lake trout fishing to be even better than yesterday. It was not. The same drifts turned up no fish or strikes. A stiff southwest wind with light rain welcomed us and the lakers had moved on.
I had a hunch where many of them were, so we investigated and were able to locate several large schools of lake trout in 65 to 75 FOW. But they would not cooperate and refused our presentation. We drifted shallow for trout and found none. Only a handful of smallmouth. And since the guys had a long drive, and the fishing was slow, we were back at the dock by 1100 hrs.
We all agreed it was a fun weekend with plenty of laughs and some nice fish brought to net on light tackle.
1 June 2019
Day two of their weekend fishing adventure started out well. The light south west breeze and overcast skies had the lake trout aggressive in the morning. The guys landed five and missed a few more on spinning rods. When the sun began to come out and get high in the sky the lakers stopped cooperating.
So we headed for the warm shallow waters to try and find feeding rainbows or salmon and deliver flies to them. And we did! Great fun and a fine day of fishing on the lake! Shallow margin temps at surface have reached 55 degrees in many locations and the trout are active and chasing! Head hunting will begin in the early morning hours of the days ahead quite soon.
31 May 2019
Dan and his father Tim travelled from New Hampshire and Amsterdam, NY to spend the weekend in Skaneateles to fish out of my boat. They arrived around noon and we embarked. The trout were active in 12 to 16 FOW. Dead drift presentation accounts for several missed takes early on. Once the guys got the hang of mending their line and setting the hook, trout began to come to the net. Water temps reaching 53 and the trout are now chasing and leaping!
What a riot!
27 May 2019
The plan for my guests was a half day small stream fly fishing on Memorial Day morning. But the creeks were running too high and too fast for “fun” fly fishing. So instead of placing my guests in a flooded stream and having them dredge nymphs for four hours, telling them stories and then taking their money with a smile…like many a guide might do…I decided to take Tina and Beck out on the lake.
The lake was flat and calm but as beautiful as ever on a spectacular bright and crisp morning. The parade marched through the village as I instructed my guest Beck (the radio personality from 95.1 in Rochester incidentally) and his wife Tina on the mechanics of proper fly casting. The trumpets and drums followed the American flag down main street while we enjoyed the turquoise water around us.
A slight west breeze built up around 11:00 and Beck and Tina caught a few fish. Tina landed a beautiful 16″ rainbow that much to Becks’ chagrin she refused to take a picture of so as not to harm the trout. An enjoyable morning had by all and it was a pleasure making new friends!
26 May 2019
Morning: The morning trip was challenging. As it was a holiday weekend I abstained from allowing my guests to meet me at the NYSDEC ANGLERS PARKING AREA. Why? Because they would likely get a ticket for parking in one of the designated spots for vehicles without trailers at the NYSDEC ANGLERS PARKING AREA. What a crock!
So to make it easy on my guests I offered to pick them up at the dock of their rental place. Had I not been so busy I would perhaps not have made that decision. Their rental was located six miles south of boat launch at a place called Carleton Cliffs. Running my guests to and from the fishing grounds ate up too much time.
They enjoyed the fishing however. It was slow and they had a hard time setting the hook on the trout. A beautiful morning on the lake none-the-less.
Afternoon: A friend of a friend had reserved the afternoon for his wives’ family to do a little spin casting from the deck of my boat. So I picked the guys up from their lakeside rental at Slate Cove Road. It did not take long for the guys to hook up with some trout. Also included in the action was a pig smallmouth. Earl and his two sons Eric and Kyle had a nice time and caught some impressive fish!
23 May 2019
The wind arrived out of the south with some force overnight. I met my guests at the boat launch and we traversed to drift a deep weedy flat for lake trout. The guys struggled a bit with setting the hook but managed to bring three lake trout top-side. The fishing was not fast and furious but each drift provided some action and a hook-up.
Around noon we went looking for warm shallow water that may hold rainbows. We found it. A stiff south south created a lunch-line. We positioned ourselves at the head of the line and began serving the entrees. I like that analogy!
Great day on the lake and I enjoyed the company of Chris, his father Lee and his friend Mike. Thanks guys!
22 May 2019
Every day is different. And today could not be more different than yesterday as far as lake conditions. Upon arrival at the launch I found the lake to be a sheet of glass from end to end. The kiss of death. The skies were clear and the sun was intense. As still and as calm as I have ever seen it.
When this happens I have no choice to look for lake trout in deep water. In a depth of 50 to 80 FOW lake trout will not spook from the boat. Problem is that this time of year the lake trout found in the deep water tend to be juveniles. The large and adult trout are spread out in the shallow margins feeding while water temps at those depths allow.
My guests Nina and Xavier, from France, were not dismayed. They enjoyed their tour of the lake. I used the electric prop and slowly stalked some weedy rocky points where we watched hundreds of yellow perch spawn. The “aquarium” was lit up and we watched fish, tried to get them to bite, but they just went about their business with one eye on my boat!
Fishing was terrible and spiders were building webs on my upright fishing rods in the rod holders. Thats calm. Dead, flat calm. The worst of conditions for fishing any lake, but on Skaneateles Lake, it is the “kiss of death”.
21 May 2019
I met Fran and Dick at the launch down at the bottom of the lake. What was predicted as an eight to ten mph west wind was aa 15 to 20 mph north wind. The southern third of the lake was a froth and un-fishable. So we ventured north to the NYSDEC launch to get some protection from the wind for a day of fly casting for rainbows.
Fran is in his late 70’s as is his friend Dick. They have been fly fishing for nearly fifty years and have travelled all over the west and New York State in search of trout on a fly. After finding some warm water out of the wind they began casting as I controlled the drift. Within minutes Fran hooked a trout. That was the start.
The sun was shining and the skies were blue as one after another the rainbows fell for our presentation. The guys landed 8 trout and missed/dropped as many more in the middle of the afternoon. Upon dropping the guys off at the launch Fran mentioned that the fly fishing he had on my boat was perhaps the most enjoyable fly fishing he has had in many many years.
I will take that compliment. All fish caught and released.
16 May 2019
Ken and his friend (whose name I forgot) spent the day on the boat with me. The skies were overcast with a four to eight mph west wind. I travelled from the state launch to a large deep weed covered flat. I set up for a drift and then locked into the spot to demonstrate to the guys how to fish the rig they would be using. I pitched it out in front of the boat and began to describe the method.
Before I could draw the line tight and finish my sentence, a lake trout snapped up the bait! Needless to say they were both convinced of the effectiveness of the presentation. After several drifts Ken landed three lake trout while his friend missed several hits and dropped a fish. Around noon we drove south to cast for rainbow trout.
Fish were sparse and we worked hard for the few we hooked. Water temps remain around 46 to 47 at surface in this location. Water levels quite high but dropping.
15 May 2019
Guided Alan from California on the southern third of the lake. Moderate south winds created an optimal drift and I focused on delivering the fly over short but “active” weed beds in 14 to 18 FOW. Water temps are slow to rise on the southern third of the lake. This is a good thing. The only fish, in temps below 48 that consistently take the dead drift fly are the trout. Soon, when the water temps surpass fifty degrees at surface, the smallmouth will start to attack. The smallmouth bass (or chickens as I call them) get more aggressive as the water temps rise. Once 55 degree temps are found in the shallow margins of the lake the chickens begin to compete heavily with the rainbow trout for food.
A healthy naive laker fell for the fly as well as a few small rainbows.
9 May 2019
DJ and Sabrina met me at the launch at 0730 hours. I showed up a bit early. Studying the forecast change through the day yesterday had me concerned I would find the lake a froth with wind. When I pulled into the launch the cable rigging of the boatyard crane was singing and the lake was all whitecaps.
My guests, upon arrival at the launch, knew at once that there would be no fly fishing on the lake today. We chatted for a bit while a sustained 30 mph southeast gust blew cold spray over the gravel beach. To re-schedule was the obvious solution and being from Ithaca makes it easy for them.
I tried fishing from shore, drifting a jig under a float on the leeward side of the point. The south wind had created such a froth and eddy break on the north side of the gravel point it appeared obvious that a big trout would be searching for food there, maybe even spawning in the windswept gravel.
The wind was too strong. So I hopped in the cab of my Silverado and headed down to the south end of the lake with the Lund in tow. I knew the rollers and whitecaps would be less there but the gusting wind would make fly casting to trout extreme and unenjoyable, if not impossible, on the open lake regardless of location. Driving along the southern end of the lake I noticed a familiar beat-up old blue Chevy pick-up truck parked on the shoulder. Charlies’ rig.
The rusty blue Chevy truck used to be my friend Erics’. It did not take me long to find Charlie and his buddy (whose name I forget). Big pumpkinseeds and bullhead had migrated into the shallow turbid water. Charlie and his buddy were there to harvest.
Charlie smiled when I approached and we began to bullshit. Somewhere during the conversation he insulted me with a smile on his face. Thats what Charlie does. We have known each other for twenty years and in the small circle of hard-core Skaneateles anglers around here, everyone knows Charlie, and knows he usually insults you to your face with a smile.
I enjoy seeing Charlie on the water. If there are panfish in a big school on any of the nearby lakes, anytime of the year, Charlie is there catching them…Taking them home and cleaning and eating them. Just another link in the local food chain.
Charlies’ buddy finished their last PBR and they started back to the truck with a bucket of big jumbo pumpkinseeds. Besides the wind that howled above our heads on the tops of the willows, down in the big valley, it was a fine Spring day. So I took a pic of Charlie in his element. And shared it with you.
6 May 2019
Guided Sean and Tyler for the day. The lake has been like glass for a week straight and I did not expect it to change. So I knew that the fly fishing was going to be difficult. No wind on a crystal clear lake makes for fun fly casting but poor fly fishing. Sean and Tyler were just happy to be floating and fishing and while they wanted, naturally, to hook some fat rainbows, it was not in the cards today.
We fished hard in some of my best spots and never rolled a trout. Ugh! The lake was super flat most of the day. An occasional northwest breeze would start to build and then fizzle out completely. While it was a stunning day and we talked and enjoyed each others company, we totally blanked on the trout.
It happens. And this long stretch of calm weather makes me want for wind…Something, as a big lake angler, I rarely ever do. A steady, soft wind and blue skies is the best conditions for stillwater fly fishing. Water temps at surface were 42 to 44 degrees where we angled today.
5 May 2019
My good friend George joined me for a couple hours of perch fishing in the am. We launched at 0730 hrs and headed over to the the same school of perch. My friend John was already there with his son. I had told John where to go the night before as he wanted to get a meal of perch and get his boy Connal out on the water.
As we approached John waved us in. He was catching fish, but the lake was again still, with hardly a hint of a northwest breeze. The perch were still there but proved difficult to catch. They have abandoned minnows and are now keying in on emerging midge larvae, scuds and damsel/dragon fly nymphs. The slow rising water temperature and sunlight has the weeds growing and the aquatic insect activity coming alive. The perch are grazing in the weeds face down now. Eating tiny stuff. That can male them difficult to catch. The midges are starting to hatch with momentum and the swallows are feasting. Water temp here was 42.5
The perch fishing here slowed down so George and I went and inspected another shallow spot on the lake to the north. In eight FOW we found a huge school of perch and bullheads. A pair of lakers marauded the perch as we watched. I cast a fly and one laker took it hard. A handsome wild fish that was caught and released to fight again another day. Water temp in this location was 48!
4 May 2019
My friend Eric, the fish farmer, met me at the dock and we went looking for perch. We found them quickly but again the lake was void of any wind. A slight breeze finally came up and the perch let their guard down and began to bite. We launched at noon and were off the lake by 1600 hrs with a nice mess of jumbos.
Another boat with three anglers came by and started to crowd us to get in on the school. We had enough and let them have the spot. Drifting slightly south I picked up two lakers on a fly rod over some shallow weeds and rocks. Both fish were released and then we split. Water temp at surface was 45.
29 April 2019
Guided Max and his buddy, whose name escapes me, from the Syracuse University photo-journalism program. Newhouse School. They are doing some field work on a project about Skaneateles Lake and wanted to see the lake, up close. Upon arrival at the lake I found the two of them with camera gear set-up on the dock at the launch and filming.
The lake was like glass. They boarded, and I took them for a spin in the Lund and showed them around the lake. They wanted some footage of me fly fishing so I obliged. We travelled to the top portion of the southern third of the lake. The lightest of a breeze spread across the surface and a rainbow picked up my dead drift fly over some thick but short weeds.
I strip set and rolled the trout, enough to see his bright silver flanks flash deep in the sunlight. While reaching for my electric prop remote at my waist to anchor, I allowed a bit of slack and the trout shook the hook. That was it. The slight wind died and we sat on the glass smooth surface for a bit. Waiting for the breeze to build, but it never did. So we talked and they filmed and interviewed me. Then we headed back.
25 April 2019
The NYSDEC put their nets out in various locations on the lake this past week to capture and survey walleyes. An offer to help was given, but none was required it appears. As the skies were blue and the winds were calm, I ventured out on the lake alone wanting to fly cast for rainbows, but upon arrival at the lake I found it a sheet of glass…Not a stitch of wind or a ripple on the surface of the lake.
This is the “kiss of death” for fishing on any lake, but especially on Skaneateles Lake. The crystal clear water without a breeze to texture its’ surface, makes it impossible to sneak up on fish. Fly casting to rainbows in these conditions is useless. The Greyghost 2 was launched anyways. These conditions are perfect for one thing. To spy on the fish in the giant aquarium.
On a bright, early spring day with the sun high in the sky, I can stand on the bow deck of my Lund and silently glide over the weedy flats with my electric prop, visually surveying the fish. Several locations that I had not been to yet this season, I went to inspect, looking for schooling perch and whatever else. The water temp at surface was 44 degrees. Spent midges and their emergence shucks lay on the surface of the lake at the boat launch quite thick.
At the first location I checked I found the water to be 47 near shallow rocks. Moving out into the weedy flat to the south I located a massive school of perch. Several hundred swam under the boat in 18 to 20 FOW over dense weeds. In this location I also identified four walleye. The clarity of the water makes it easy to identify the walleye as they have bright white tips on their ventral fins and stand out in the mix of perch.
Two other locations I checked I also found huge schools of jumbo perch. I caught enough for a meal, made a few mental notes on depth and location, then fired up the Yamaha and departed for home. In the evening, I cleaned a dozen jumbos and found their stomaches to be “sausage tight” with chironomid (midge) larvae.
19 April 2019
Guided Dan and his two boys Tyler and James in the morning for steelhead on a small tributary of the lake. Dan and his boys have never caught a big lake-run rainbow (steelhead) and wanted to try their hand at it. With lake-run fish, either in the Spring or the Fall, timing is everything. We arrived at the creek at 0630 hrs to find it in good shape. Not too high and not to low. I showed the boys how to fish these spooky trout and we stalked a half mile of creek.
They each hooked a trout but they were not prepared for what the trout does after it feels the hook! It was their first time and while I try to teach and inform and lecture, when a big trout takes your fly, reactions of all sorts take place! We had a very enjoyable morning and the boys and their Dad learned a lot. But no trout were brought to net!
Water temp in this tributary
was 46 and red horse suckers were running the creek by the hundreds. The few remaining trout that were in the creek were dropping back quickly to the lake.
16 April 2019
Guided Earl and his two boys Troy and Jake for a few hours this afternoon. The kids are on Spring Break this week and Earl wanted to get out on the water with his boys. Light south winds and overcast skies found the big school of jumbos right where I had left them a few days ago. Within a few hours we amassed enough big perch for a healthy meal for Earl and his family. And that is quite a few perch considering the size of his two teenage boys!
Water temps at 39 and still no midges hatching. A few swallows flying, but most perched and resting, waiting for the bugs.
11 April 2019
Headed out on the lake for a few hours this afternoon with another friend named Eric. I have three fishing buddies named Eric. So when I tell my wife I am going fishing and she says “With who?”, I say “with Eric”. That accurately answers the question most of the time.
Instead of heading north from the launch we headed south. Eric had some intel on a school of jumbos on the west shore three miles from the state launch. Eric’s other fishing buddy, named Mike, was there in his boat with his son, catching perch when we arrived. We came in soft and quiet under power of the electric prop. When we had approached to within casting distance I pushed the anchor button and the motor guide spun around in circles strangling itself with its cord as if possessed. I have no idea why but it would not function so I quickly slipped the real anchor to keep us from gliding too close to Mikes’ boat and risk spooking the school of perch.
First cast produced a slob. And a few more casts and a few more fish. Erics’ buddy Mike had to leave so he pulled anchor and said goodbye only to find his cranking battery dead. His electric prop battery was dead before he put the boat in the lake he mentioned so that was of no help. The lake was very calm but there was enough of a southeast breeze that Mikes’ boat began to drift away.
I had a battery isolated just for my sonar. So I switched the sonar connections over to my cranking battery and we pulled anchor and delivered my extra battery to Mike. He hooked it up and it fired his outboard and he left, assuring us he would put the battery in the back of my truck back at the launch.
We had not drifted too far but in the commotion we had scattered or shifted the school of perch. So we had to search them out again. They were not far and we left at dusk with about fifty between the two of us. Big slob perch. Water was 38 at surface with light and variable wind.
The swallows and loons are back on the lake. The swallows just arrived and may be a few days early as the midges have not begun to hatch and there is little for them to eat. The loons are just on a layover, stopping to re-fuel on fish. They will not stay for more than a week or ten days before they continue their journey north into Canada or other lakes in northern New York where they will nest and spend the summer.
7 April 2019
Enjoyed a few hours on the water with a friend named Eric. A steady 15 mph north wind with gusts over 20 mph kept us on the north end of the lake on the west shore. Immediately, I realized the batteries in the remote control for electric prop were dead and had to take a detour to the village sea wall. My friend Eric stayed with the Lund and I hoofed it through the village to the Byrne Dairy for a set of AA batteries and returned. Problem solved. I bought two packs and stashed one package in the watertight hatch of my boat for the future.
We quickly located a large school of yellow perch and the anchor button was pressed on the electric prop. The motorguide held the boat on that location for about two and a half hours in a steady wind. Eric and I left with about fifty large perch between the two of us. Water temps still around 38,
1 April 2019
The first open-water guided fishing trip of the year! Three inches of fresh snow carpeted the lakeshore and boat launch when arriving at noon. Dave, my guest, was staying at The Sherwood Inn in the village and wanted to get out on the lake for a few hours. There was a strong northwest wind, clear skies and air temps around 33 to 35 degrees.
I picked Dave up in the village and since he did not have any preference to what species he caught I took him to the spot I have been perch fishing. The perch were still there and Dave caught one on his firstcast! He caught more than a enough for a meal so we left them, and since it was the official statewide opener of trout season, I thought we would try our hand at a little rainbow trout angling on the lake with light tackle.
The first location I delivered the fly turned up a medium sized rainbow. Two more takes followed with one fish lost and the other take missed. The water temps were one degree warmer (38.5) in this location than other areas in the lake. A safe, enjoyable and successful trip to kick off the 2019 season on Skaneateles Lake!
30 March 2019
The vast schools of jumbo yellow perch have my attention. So in the next couple of weeks, when schedule and weather permits, I will launch for a few hours to harvest a couple dozen of these tasty fish. Any fish from Skaneateles Lake is very delicious. The cold clean water lends itself to producing firm and tasty fillets. And while this is good for the angler who wants to catch a few fish for a meal on occasion, it makes the catch-and-release of trout and other game fish in the lake uncommon.
This past Friday I returned to find the perch right where I had left them. Schooled thick over scattered rocks and thick weeds in 18 FOW. The perch are aggressive and feeding hard on baby rock bass and sculpin minnows as well as last springs perch fry. Water was 38 degrees at surface.
28 March 2019
Clear skies and calm winds were difficult to ignore this afternoon so I launched for a couple hours of fishing. Besides the fine weather, I needed to blow the cobwebs off the Lund and make certain all systems were go as the open water guiding season is now here. With no safe ice for three winters in a row, in addition to a very wet and blustery April last season, I assumed the lakes’ yellow perch population would be quite ripe and that this Spring would be a good one for harvesting these delicious fish.
I was not disappointed by the perch fishing. And learned that I had a dead battery in my 24 volt system that powers my electric prop. The perch were schooled in 18 to 21 fow over thick weeds and were aggressive. It took myself and a friend a short time to gather enough for a solid Friday evening fish fry.
What are they eating? Themselves it appears…Among other things. The water temp was 38 at surface, which is up two degrees since Sunday. The clear skies and bright sun helped the water temperature rise and smallmouth were active as well.
24 March 2019
The NYSDEC held a State Of The Lake meeting concerning Skaneateles Lake this past Wednesday evening. The topics were water quality and the management of the lakes’ fishery. The presence of walleye in the lake was the hot topic as walleye are not native to Skaneateles Lake. In the summer of 2014 a guest on my boat reeled in a 12 inch walleye while angling over shallow weeds and rocks. It was a surprise. In 2016 another walleye, about 14 inches in length, was hooked and netted in my boat in the same area. In 2017, the local outdoors writer caught a walleye from shore in the Village of Skaneateles and it made headlines.
In the summer of 2018 the NYSDEC performed their scheduled four-year netting survey of the lake. They caught nearly 100 walleyes in their nets and determined, based upon the size and quantity of the fish and other scientific factors, that walleye have established a breeding population and are likely to only increase in numbers.
According to the biologists, once a population of walleyes is established in a trout lake like Skaneateles Lake, if left unchecked, it is inevitable that the walleye will become the apex predator in the lake. The cold water sports fishery of rainbow trout and landlocked salmon will disappear. The annual stocking program to support the trout fishery will be discontinued. This is what will happen on Skaneateles Lake if the walleye are not managed.
The walleye were introduced illegally by misguided outlaw anglers, transplanted from other nearby lakes over the course of several years. A healthy walleye population in the 9,000 acre lake has established itself. Who did this and why, is now, of no consequence. What is important now is what steps can be taken to reverse the growing walleye population and preserve the trout and salmon fisheries program.
At last Wednesday evenings meeting the crowd of 80 or so anglers spoke up overwhelmingly in support of maintaining the rainbow trout fishery and in support of implementing a management plan to control the walleye population. The NYSDEC biologists held the meeting to gain this type of feedback. The concern of local anglers to preserve and protect Skaneateles Lake as a premier and unique rainbow trout and landlocked salmon fishery is evident. I am hoping this sentiment will gain some momentum and strength and guide the future fisheries management of the lake.
The proactive approach to offering a public forum and taking input into the management of a lakes fishery is a relatively new and effective tool utilized by the state biologists. It allows the biologists to understand if the work and goals they are undertaking are in-line with the local anglers who utilize the resource. Unfortunately, the state biologists often lack the necessary resources and manpower and are buried under tremendous workloads, forcing them to prioritize their energy and efforts. This can sometimes leave issues that are of great concern to a handful of anglers relatively low on the “to-do” list.
If enough anglers and non-anglers alike show support for the Skaneateles Lake trout and salmon fisheries program the state will be forced to pay attention..forced to understand that Skaneateles Lake, its ecosystem and its intact cold water sport fishery, is very important to Central New Yorkers. This will be the most valuable impetus to helping biologists quickly develop and implement a walleye management plan for the lake in an attempt to save the trout.
Skaneateles Lake is an environmental icon in our community. Its trout fishery is one steeped in history…An invaluable cold water fishery too significant and unique to give up on. Its trout fishing heritage, just like its water quality, needs to be preserved and protected so our kids can experience the same high quality trout fishing this magnificent lake has provided for generations.
To help save the Skaneateles Lake Trout & Salmon Fisheries Program please contact the NYSDEC Region 7 state biologist, your local politicians and voice your support.
The Months Of September And October 2018
I am a terrible blogger. Entire months of fishing the lake has escaped my capture here. As I have always said, when it comes to lake fishing September is a repeat of August. Water temperatures are slow to decline and the lake does not experience any significant changes in temperature until mid-October.
The bass fishing was very good for my guests the entire month of September. It became better as October progressed, and now, late October, the smallmouth are ON FIRE!
But I am no longer interested in them. In fact, I wish they would complete their feeding frenzy and lay down for the remainder of the year. Its trout time!
Water temperatures ranged between 58 and 60 on the 19th of this month. This is the first day I was able to catch rainbow trout on a fly in the shallow margins of the lake. By Monday the temperatures were below 60 everywhere and hovered around 57 at surface. The trout fishing in the lake will be very good for the next several weeks. The weather may not be and that is typical for November in Upstate New York. Yet with a few more trips on the calendar, I look forward to the crisp and short Autumn days ahead spent fly casting to rainbows on the vast open lake.
The whining of outboard and jet ski engines is gone. The deep bellow of the tour boat gone as well. The lake has lost its decoration of countless moored boats. Swim platforms and floating docks have been dragged on shore. And I reunite again, as I do each year, with the lake in its Autumn moods… With colors and skies that I have come to love as I deliver my fly over and over again along its now lonely shores.
26, 27, 28 August 2018
Fishing remains fair to very good for smallmouth bass with light tackle in the shallower margins of the lake. I have not seen much activity form the trolling armada in the last few weeks. Several years in row of killing hundreds of trout via trolling has taken its toll on the population of mature trout roaming the thermocline this year. The low rainbow trout numbers are a result of a combination of factors however.
Rumor has its some anglers have been targeting walleyes on the lake with some success. I believe half of what I read and none of what I hear. Especially from anglers. I don’t mean that as an insult or a remark to the character of fellow anglers. Experience has taught me, however, to take what I hear from anglers at the boat launch with a grain of salt.
Just as the lake is slow to rise in temperature in the Spring, it is likewise slow to cool down in the Fall. September will see more isolated algae blooms on the lake and a slow transition into Autumn conditions.
October is the month I look forward to!
19 & 20 August 2018
The Hilltop Diner in Skaneateles is where I meet my guests in the morning these days. Excellent food there…And I have gained a few pounds this summer because of it. The diner being my early morning meeting place is good for the diner I guess…but inconvenient for me and my guests. Especially the ones that are on a diet.
Why would people who bought a New York State fishing license — and hired a New York State licensed fishing guide to take them fishing — not be able to legally park at The New York State Skaneateles Lake Fishing Access Site?
That’s a good question isn’t it?
Every Saturday and Sunday in July and August the New York State Fishing Access Site on Skaneateles Lake is full of jet ski, pontoon boat and pleasure boat trailers. Few of which are fishing!
“Thats not accurate” I was told by the NYSDEC ECO who patrols the area during a recent conversation.
I beg to differ.
Pleasure boaters, without a doubt, make up 75% of the vehicles and trailers parked every weekend all summer long at The New York State Fishing Access Site on Skaneateles Lake.
But my guests, who have fishing licenses, that are in town to go fishing, CANNOT LEGALLY PARK their car in one of the spots designated for vehicles without a trailer at the NEW YORK STATE FISHING ACCESS SITE!
It’s a crock.
Oh yah. Fishing remains excellent for smallmouth.
14 & 15 August 2018
Surface temperature is starting to decline and I found it to be 74 on the morning of the 14th. The lake was cloudy with algae however. North winds turned to the west and shifted the locations of schooling bass that I had been keeping tabs upon. Once winds set up for a while I was able to find scattered schools of medium sized bass.
My guests enjoyed good fishing both days. The shallow margins of the lake, 25 to 10 FOW are infested with rock bass. They won’t leave the shallows. Its out of their comfort zone and they cling to the rocks. Meanwhile the smallmouth suspend on the edge and venture out over deep water in search of the large schools of perch fry that are wandering over the deeper regions of the few flats and rocky shoals/structure that exist on Skaneateles Lake.
While it can sometimes take a while, and wind is the determining factor, once the schools of bait are found, the smallmouth soon make an appearance!
8 August 2018
The rains came and a stiff south breeze kept things moving and the fishing good today. I got soaked in a downpour with a family of three in the am. Then dried out. Then soaked again with a solo angler in the afternoon. Then dried out again as the fronts moved north and the sun came out.
Interesting day! Fishing was good on leeward side of structure. Bass puking up tiny perch by the dozen.
The water was cloudy with algae almost to Five Mile Point, but I did not see a “bloom”. Surface water temperature was 78.
I snapped the pic above next to the docks in the village
3rd 5th and 6th August 2018
Cloudy overcast skies and steady south wind had the lakes’ smallmouth all fired up this week! The young of the year fry (tiny minnows) have moved out of the shallows and gone pelagic. The smallmouth (all the lakes fish) are keying in on these clouds of small perch and rock bass minnows that are driven by wind over shallow structure.
Small soft plastics fished drop shot with 7’6″ St. Croix Premier Rods has been killing the bass and perch in 18 to 22 FOW over scattered rocks piles and mixed weeds and rocks.
The surface temp was 78 degrees yesterday, the 6th. Syracuse.com is praying that the lake has an toxic blue green algae bloom so they will have something to write about!
It was looking like it might happen lake-wide but heavy rains cooled things down. Some blue-green algae present at the north end near village however. Nobody swimming in the village but kids in the lake all over the place elsewhere on the lake.
The Month Of July 2018
The July of 2018 was indeed the finest I can remember. Day after day of beautiful weather kept Upstate Guide Service busy. I lost track of how many trips I did on Skaneateles Lake. It was the single busiest month my guide service has ever had in fifteen years.
Calm hot weather with clear skies is not a weather condition I dare complain about. Not as a native Central New Yorker. When the sun is shining for days on end you just enjoy it, take a mental snapshot and tuck it away in your mind to bring out in January when you find yourself shoveling snow and de-icing the car.
The fishing on the lake, on any lake, is challenging when the sun is bright and the surface is smooth. Winds that build and sustain for any period of time would make the fish active and my guests would enjoy good fishing.
When the lake was flat I would search for schools of lake trout in deeper water… With limited success. This past season saw the lowest number of native Skaneateles Lake trout brought to net ever on my boat. But I cannot correlate that fact with anything. They just were not where I was looking for them in any real numbers.
The lakes smallmouth bass population continues to do very well. The lake is infested with these hard fighting fish, so I target them as they make for an enjoyable fishing trip for vacationing families!
They make great fish tacos too!
29 June 2018
Lake was flat calm when we arrived at launch at 0530 hrs. Jigging for lake trout over 80 from was fairly productive with a dozen small fish brought to net. Schools of fish seemed more abundant but size was lacking. By 0930 hrs the bite slowed down and we abandoned the deep water and went in search of smallmouth bass.
Many bass were still on spawn beds while many others had moved off beds and were hungry. Drop shot rigs worked the best.
19 June 2018
Launched at the NYSDEC Anglers parking area. My guests, Tom and his son Sam, followed me there and parked their car in one of the vacant spots reserved for vehicles without a trailer. He had an inflatable raft in the trunk of his car… so he was legit. And it being a Tuesday morning, traffic at the launch was light.
Hunting lakers over 65 to 85 FOW proved fruitless. We hooked a few small ones but found no concentrations or large schools of fish. With the smallmouth moving off their beds and hungry, I quickly transitioned into bass fishing to get my guests into fish.
Many of the bass all dressed up in their spawning make-up with bright red-eyes, dark fins and prominent markings.
16 June 2018
Arrived at the NYSDEC Anglers Boat Launch and Parking Area on the west shore of the lake at 0510 hrs. My buddy was coming to join me and was a bit behind schedule. The Town of Skaneateles Constable was there at that early hour however. While rolling down the hill to the ramp I stopped so he could inspect my boat for traces of invasive aquatic hitchhikers. No hitchhikers present.
There were four other rigs in the parking lot and two boats launching on what was the statewide opening day of bass season. Not too busy. Smallmouth bass may be fished for and caught all year in Skaneateles Lake. So statewide opening day is a nothing.
I launched the Lund, tied it to the outside dock and parked my truck and trailer in the 95% vacant four acre parking lot. My friend arrived and pulled his truck into one of the four empty parking spaces designated for vehicles without a trailer. The constable approached him and told him the spot is for vehicles with car-top watercraft only and that he had to leave. Like leave leave. As in exit the whole parking lot with vehicle and go find another place to access the lake.
Down the lake to the south a few miles is the Town Of Mandana boat launch. A location my friend and I are quite familiar with. Upon arrival we found a newly constructed (paint still wet) kiosk that required a deposit of ten dollars to park for a vehicle and twenty for a vehicle with a trailer attached.
Also noticed that Skaneateles Marina has added another 50 or more floating boat slips to their dockage and mooring area on the lake.
I wonder what they cost?
Oh yah…We fished. Water temps at surface were 60 ish’. Some small lakers around. Most of the big smallies were spawning and blind fishing them was tricky in th clouds and chop. Off the lake by 0930 hrs.
09 June 2018
Launched fairly early with a friend to again search the deeper structure for lake trout in transition. The fish were more abundant and a bit more aggressive. We landed three and let a couple go. Missed a few hits and dropped some trout in three hours. The sonar shows numbers improving. Water temp at surface was 55 degrees. Several trout or salmon were rising on the calm surface of the lake out over deep water. Tremendous amount of plant and insect debris in the film of the lake. As water temperatures continue to climb the aquatic insect activity will as well.
While I am keeping tabs on the lakers with the spinning tackle…The rainbows and salmon are ripe for the fly caster right now!
27 May 2018
Early morning outing with my son and a couple friends to look for lake trout. Water temperatures were around 50 at surface in 80 FOW. Immature lake trout were found in some numbers on and around structure in 55 to 85 FOW.. We hooked a few but had many others refuse our jigs and show little interest. No big trout were seen (marked). It appears to me that the shallow water temperatures are still quite hospitable to the lakers and they are still roaming the weeds and rocks in the twenty to thirty foot (and shallower) zones of the lake.
25 May 2018
Spectacular weather remains in the Finger Lakes through the holiday weekend. Ron from Boise joined me on the lake for a couple of hours of drifting and fly casting. In addition to a nice fat rainbow he caught several smallmouth. Water temperatures have exceeded fifty degrees and the fish are feeding! The lake should fish excellent over the next eight to ten days. The bass will compete with the trout and in some areas they will force trout out of the shallow water. But insect activity is rising to peak and the cruising rainbows are beginning to key in on what is floating on the surface. Which makes for exciting fly fishing!
I have not seen an exodus of the lake trout from the shallow water yet. But as shallow water temperatures continue to climb into the high 50’s, the lakes’ char will retreat to the depths. And I will be hovering above them with 3/4 ounce jigs ready!
22/23/24 May 2018
Nick, Ron and Jack made the journey to Skaneateles from Fredericksburg, Virginia. Day one of their three day fishing trip was a wash out with strong south winds. (The first real weather we have had in days). The guys opted not to fish in the rain and wind. The following a day was clear and the winds were gone. Surface water temperature was at 44 degrees at the surface on Tuesday but began a steady climb through the next two days to reach 47 by mid afternoon on Thursday.
Lack of wind was an issue in the morning. So I took the boat to some areas of the lake where I thought lake trout would be schooled. But there were few around and the ones that were around were small. We landed a few with none over 20″ in length. That is the average size caught. My guests had never seen a lake trout before and enjoyed the lake trout fishing, although it was slow.
Around noon each day the breeze built up enough to get a drift going. Several rainbow trout from 18 to to 24 inches were landed on flies. The smallmouth are waking up and becoming active. Several large jumbo yellow perch were caught as well.
20 May 2018
Just when things were beginning to heat up on the lake…Mother Nature decided to cool us down. A low pressure system came in early Saturday morning and brought strong winds and low air temperatures. The areas of the lake where water temps were beginning to climb into the high 40’s and low 50’s mid week were set back. Water temps at 42 degrees…again!
The rain was heavy and the wind did blow, but Pj and his son Jack, from Connecticut, were well prepared. We hunkered down and fished but the trout proved difficult through the morning. After lunch the skies began to clear and the showers subsided. A light northwest breeze set-up and we were able to drift and connect with several fat and healthy rainbow trout.
When it comes to fishing big open lakes, or anywhere, as long as conditions are safe you take what you get and make the best of it. You persevere.
I will be guiding both fly fishing and spin fishing on the lake the next five days.
17 May 2018
Ryan had just completed his sophomore year of mechanical engineering at SUNY Binghamton. His dad Bob came up from Staten Island to pick Ryan up and they detoured to Skaneateles Lake to do some fly fishing and relaxing. I met them at the launch and found the lake to be flat. Not a stitch of wind and not a ripple on the surface of the lake. In the spring of the year the stunning high pressure systems that warm the clear cold water are accompanied by a complete lack of wind. Double-edged sword for the lake fisherman. A breeze is necessary to effectively catch fish in the shallow margins of a lake with tremendous water clarity.
While we floated about the lake, waiting for the wind to build and fix, we spied on the fish in the shallow water. We watched trout swim by, viewed thousands of perch and hundreds of suckers and many smallmouth bass.
The morning fishing was slow.
Around 10:00 am we felt a breeze! The surface of the lake gained some texture and the boat began to drift and the rainbows let their guard down and smashed our flys! Water temperature was 47 ish.
Big fun and a beautiful day!
15 May 2018
A relative humidity of 100 percent created a heavy fog that shrouded the lake Tuesday morning. With limited visibility, I crossed the lake to a seasonal cottage where I picked up Rob from San Pedro. By 0700 hrs a breeze formed enough to lift the fog and the lakes’ shoreline became visible. The southerly breeze created an excellent drift and the trout were found in a few locations. Water temperatures were around 45 to 47 in areas we drifted.
Suckers rolled on the surface on the gravel points as they spawned in the lake and trout rose to hatching midges. Each of the female trout we landed were with eggs and showed tail wear from the digging of redds. I believe many of the trout find suitable gravel and oxygen in the lake to spawn and do not migrate up the tributaries.
The water temperatures are climbing slowly and the lake is coming alive in conjunction. Smallmouth bass are beginning to become aggressive.
The lake was as beautiful as ever and the fishing was very good.
12 May 2018
I picked up a couple guests in the village for a couple hours of fly casting. The high pressure system, clear skies and slight breezes we enjoyed earlier in the week were gone. A stagnant low pressure system was parked on the lake and the surface was like glass. The low gray cloud cover made visibility poor for seeing structure and weeds, the primary targets for early spring trout in lakes.
No trout were caught our seen. There was one other boat on the lake. I anticipated the fly fishing for rainbow trout to be poor in these conditions. And it was. With some exceptions, I can arrive at the launch and look at the lake and have a pretty good idea of what the fishing will be like. I cannot rely upon forecasted weather to dictate though. The forecast may give a clue as to what to expect, but I have to go and physically look at the lake to really know. Upon arrival at the launch Saturday morning, I knew, with a glance…It was going to be tough. Take the good days with the bad, and it is always enjoyable!
8 May 2018
Joined a friend for a few hours of fly casting on the north end of the lake. The awesome weather beckoned and neither of us could resist a mid-week opportunity to fish for rainbows. When water temperatures in the lake are hovering around the low 40’s, the trout tend to hold “bankers hours”. So we arrived at the launch at 1100 hrs to find the lake flat. The forecast called for a slight wind to build however as the morning progressed into early afternoon.
Without even a ripple or slight hint of a breeze, fly casting was pointless.So we floated around the aquarium and spied on hundreds of suckers and perch and smallmouth bass that laid on the bottom structure, clearly visible in depths of over 25 feet in the crystal clear water. A breeze is essential to break the surface of the lake and camouflage the boat and anglers to allow getting into casting range of trout without spooking them.
Finally, the breeze built into a soft west wind and we delivered the fly to likely locations with some success!
Stunning weather. Gorgeous lake. Beautiful trout. Catch and release.
20 April 2018
I finally launched the Greyghost 2 on Skaneateles Lake for the first time out this year. While I had a couple trips on the calendar with some local fly fishermen, the weather and cold temperatures required the dates be postponed. Experience has taught me that besides the yellow perch and lake trout, the rainbows are difficult when the temperature of the lake hovers in the mid to low thirties. The perch bite has been hit or miss as well I gathered from friends. So while I was eager to fish the open lake, I have been enjoying steelheading on local creeks, waiting for some nice weather to show up and get the water temperature in the lake rising.
And then it did! The weekend was calm, crystal clear and filled with sunshine. The intense rays of April sun warmed the temperature of the lake a few degrees in just a couple of days and the rainbows were active. It did not take my friend John and I long to find them and seduce them to take a fly!
23 October 2017
State fisheries biologists undertook a gill netting survey of the lake this past August. They found lake trout numbers to be about the same as usual. They caught no rainbow trout in their nets, but the nets are not designed to catch the rainbow trout I am told. So that is not a reflection of the vanished rainbow population. The angler diaries they collect indicates the vanishing of the rainbow population, coinciding with what many of the hardcore Skaneateles anglers already figured out. The state stocks a combined 20,000 rainbow trout and landlocked salmon in the lake every spring. Angler catch rates on rainbows are at an all time low.
Where did the trout go? Into the stomaches of smallmouth bass is a theory of the state biologist. In a report on Skanetaeles Lake published by the state biologist this past spring, Skaneateles Lake is touted as an up and coming smallmouth fishery.
To ice the cake…A healthy and fast-growing walleye population was found in this summers’ netting survey. The biologist believe that walleye will likely become an apex predator alongside the lake trout in Skaneateles Lake and that the future of Skaneateles Lake as a viable rainbow trout and landlocked salmon fishery is uncertain at best.
They estimate with some degree of certainty, based upon the age of netted walleyes, that these fish were aggressively and illegally stocked five years ago. They are reproducing in the lake and show very good growth rate.
It was inevitable. Just a matter of time I guess. Skaneateles Lake is now on its way to being a walleye lake and I cannot help but feel like the walleye stocking was someones misguided mission. A mission that has changed the fate of what was once one of the greatest rainbow trout lake’s in New York State.
Time to sell some fly rods and buy some planer boards.
19 October 2017
Pat and his brother-in-law Bob joined me for a morning of lake trout jigging. Pat recently bought a home on the lake and had yet to catch a lake trout. I warned him the lakers had been somewhat difficult as high water temps and stratified lake conditions are remaining into mid October. We found fish in two locations and they were more aggressive than I have seen them in the last few weeks. They were found in 75 FOW. Pat had a couple fish grab his jig but did not connect. Much to Pat’s chagrin, Bob set the hook into three lakers and landed each (with a couple misses as well).
A stiff south wind revealed to me that my electric bow prop was falling apart. It made it through the morning, and we were able to hold on fish and have a good time. After dropping off my guests, a closer inspection of the prop reveals it is falling apart. So that unit is out for troubleshooting and perhaps repair, but I doubt it is salvageable. It is time to replace the unit I think. Five years of hard use is acceptable for any of todays equipment.
14 October 2017
Weather was stunning but water temperatures reman higher than normal for this time of year. I usually find surface temps in high 50’s by the middle of October, but this years mild temperatures in September and October have kept temps high. The lake trout still in 80 to 100 FOW and bass aggressive. Traditional summer pattern is starting to break with the lakes’ smallmouth. The shorter days make for more active crayfish and the fish have turned their attention to the plentiful crustaceans. While fighting, smallies’ will expel the contents of their stomach. And while perch fry has been the main ingredient in September, the fish seemed to have recently turned their attention to crayfish. Landed over twenty fish, with one nice one brought to net. Most fish average 12 to 14″.
10 October 2017
Day started out overcast with a nice south breeze and my guests enjoyed good fishing for smallmouth and lake trout. Same locations fished but fished seemed more aggressive with overcast skies and light drizzle. The lake is infested with rock bass this year and I have to believe their strong number have an major impact on the food chan and other warm-water species of the lake. Few large smallmouth this year have come to net on my boat. Many 12 to 16 inch sallies that must compete heavily for food with the numerous rock bass. The smallmouth seem to be more mobile however. A school found in one location one day will have to be searched out again the next, while the rock bass stick tight to their reliable haunts.
Lakers still building in numbers adjacent to shallower structure n 80 to 100 FOW. More aggressive today than the other day. Guests landed 7 and dropped as many. Three important ingredients are key to a day of catching fish. Find the fish. Know what they will put in their mouth, and deliver a solid hook-set. If any one of these key ingredients is missing, well, the fish don’t come to the net. When guests are fishing in my boat, the fishing rod is in their hands. I take the opportunity to show the proper way to set a hook in the mouth of a fish that has taken the presentation. But this important key to landing fish can often be a challenging skill for novice anglers to learn.
7/8 October 2017
Water temperatures remain in high to mid 60’s over Columbus Day weekend. Sunday’s weather brought strong south winds that are welcome. Bass and panfish still active in 16 to 22 FOW and my guests were enjoying the hard-fighting smallmouth. Searching for Lake Trout I found small schools of small fish in 80 to 100 FOW. They are confined to the deeper regions of the lake but are starting to gather near deep structure.
My guests were interested in learning to fly cast so we a couple hours each day working on developing the mechanics of the fly cast. A day spent in a boat in calm conditions with an experienced fly caster is an excellent way to learn how to fly cast.
30 September 2017
A long stretch of beautiful weather was interrupted briefly this past weekend by strong north winds. Saturday morning was wet and cold as a Canadian high pressure system forced a front to the south. The wind created some good current and the cloud cover had the fish active. Surface temps still in the high 60’s. A good chop, whitecaps, and big rollers in the southern portion of the lake, restricted my guests and boat to the northwest portion of the lake. Some smallmouth were found but fish seemed to be in transition as current and bait were beginning to concentrate in the sudden change of conditions.
The lake is still very stratified. With the exception of Saturday’s weather and wind, it has been extremely calm last several days, creating scattered schools of fish. The mixed bag of warm-water species could be found anywhere combined rocky and weedy bottom was found in 32 to 40 feet of water.
18 September 2017
Having fished the lake two out of the last three last days, I found lakers stacked in 100 FOW. Mostly small fish, 18 to 20 inches in length. The few large marks I found were up high. Laker fishing was slow but slight south wind kept the boat moving today and smallmouth were active.
The shallow margins of the lake are infested with rock bass that are on the feed constant. The crayfish and fry from this past spring’s hatch are active and plentiful, all the caught-and-released fish landed on my boat in last two weeks appear to be feeding hard and are fat and stout.
The cold water fish, the trout, seem lethargic. This high pressure system parked on us for days may be why. Wind dispersed the alga bloom this morning but lake is still turbid and warm. In a week or two strong south winds will begin to turn the lake over. And then the real fishing begins.
Talked to a gentleman who helped the DEC with their survey netting program a few weeks ago. Very few rainbows or salmon were counted in netting results. Seems like the lake could use some good news.
15 September 2017
On occasion I stop into the local bait shop during the winter months. The only time I fish with live minnows is under the ice. During small talk with the owner he mentioned that a guy came in to the shop claiming to have caught a walleye in Skaneateles Lake. Since I believe little of what the bait shop owner says…I was skeptical.
That was in February of 2014. But then in August of 2015, I was hovering over a school of fish near a weedy rock pile in 32 feet of water when a guest reeled in a 10 inch walleye. A small but nice looking walleye that was vibrant and healthy. Just this past Tuesday I was fishing Skaneateles Lake with vacationers from Germany. While drifting over scattered rocks and sparse weeds, in 32 feet of water, one of my guests reeled in a 13 inch walleye.
The presence of walleye in Skaneateles Lake is interesting, but not surprising. To the east a short distance is Otisco Lake with an established walleye population. And to the west a short distance is Owasco Lake. Owasco Lake has a remnant walleye population still hanging on as the result of a failed private effort to stock walleye several years ago.
While these lakes are not connected in any way, their proximity to each other would accommodate the illegal transfer of fish from one lake to another by anglers. That is what has taken place. The NYSDEC knows the situation, but understanding the effect an established walleye population will have on the food chain in Skaneateles Lake remains to be seen.
5 September 2017
The summer of 2017 marks the 15th season I have been guiding anglers on Skaneateles Lake. I have met many people and have come to develop a respect for this spectacular lake.
Over the years I have seen the lake change, watched trout populations rise and fall and grimaced as the lake grew into a local fishing and boating mecca. I have always practiced catch-and-release light tackle and fly fishing on my boat, even been vocal about the value of catch-and-release on the lakes’ trout. But the simple fact is, Skaneateles Lake is managed as a put-and-take fishery. New York State puts tens of thousands of stock trout in the lake and anglers take them out.
Effective trolling techniques practiced by weekend anglers who creel a few trout for a meal on occasion have no impact on a trout population. The charter boat captain, however, soliciting vacationing tourists for cash to catch their limit of trout, day in and day out, has an impact.
Meat fishing, trolling, is fine. The sheer size and volume of Lake Ontario for instance, the greatest put-and-take trout fishery in New York State, can handle daily creeling of limits of fish with no noticeable impact. Year after Year. The professional captains working Lake Ontario take their game serious. They bag trophy fish in a challenging environment that can sustain such harvest season after season.
Smaller lakes like Skaneateles Lake are different. When the lake stratifies in summer the trout are constrained to specific depth due to water temperatures and oxygen levels. During this window of time (only a couple months of the year) summer trout populations are located with advanced sonar and GPS systems. Once found, dragging treble hooked plugs and spoons through the susceptible fish over and over again can quickly turn a limit of trout.
I think greasing limits of trout for vacationers in exchange for cash is unsportsmanlike. While trout are stocked it does not make them less valuable or infinite in number. They are a resource that could use more respect and less exploitation…Wherever they exist
If a cooler of dead trout means a successful fishing trip, perhaps you should re-think why you are fishing.
Remember the words of the late Lee Wullf;
“Trout (stocked or wild) are far too valuable to be caught only once”.